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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Having a job with that much variety doesn't seem like it'd work in XIV at all, plus the gauge thing just seems like a copy of Mch's for 4.0

    Plus you have a '15 minute cooldown' on there. Those only exist in XI dude >>

    Not to mention I don't want someone going about switching their puppet willy nilly and provoking/messing with people in dungeons/ect, this is just bad in my opinion.

    And 'OH NO MY PUPPET KEEPS DYING LOL!' losing 45% of their DPS is just way too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Having a job with that much variety doesn't seem like it'd work in XIV at all,

    plus the gauge thing just seems like a copy of Mch's for 4.0
    Then you havent understood what i meant by the heatometer.

    in other words it works like a MP bar the other way around. You shouldnt fill the heat bar completely or your puppet "overheats" and falls into stasis mode. Which mean it cant perform any actions anymore for a period of time. This is to prevent command spamming / heal or whatever spamming.
    And a MCH the more bullets he has the more dmg he does. so now what do both things have in common now?

    And what is with a bard? He can sing support songs and still is a dps.. a summoner having tank pet etc. too.. no i dont think that utillity is too much for a damage dealing job. A rdm pet having a small regen healing buff doesnt make it a healing elios pet with endless spaming heals. Especially if it would be limited to due to a system like that.

    Plus you have a '15 minute cooldown' on there. Those only exist in XI dude >>
    FFXI had 1 hour cooldowns.. and no 15 minute cooldowns are normal in MMorpgs.. and i think the ,,Enkindle" skill of Summoner had a much higher cooldown timer (around 10 mins i think) back then.

    Not to mention I don't want someone going about switching their puppet willy nilly and provoking/messing with people in dungeons/ect, this is just bad in my opinion.
    As if you dont know the summoner's titan pet has provoke too.. i dont know why this should be a thing.. Provoke could be just in solo or very urgent situations to tank some adds off the tank. the pupp could use it concerning the current situations or dungeons. If more dps is needed you wouldnt switch over to a PLD puppet.


    Quote Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund View Post
    Not going to happen, now that we know what the early development jobs were going to be the next jobs in 5.0 are sealed I would say.

    So thats an argument for not liking the idea of a puppetmaster job in FFXIV? Sorry i dont understand that anti wave here.
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    The longest cooldown we have in game right now is Hallowed Ground, with an 8 minute timer. That ability you suggested is no where near as good as Hallowed, which doesn't make sense at all to have a quarter of an hour cooldown.

    Enkindle in XIV has a cooldown of only three minutes, lest you forget that this IS NOT FFXI, SE has stated this isn't XI, so I don't know why people keep using that as an argument for some of this stuff

    Tell me about Summoner's Titan-Egi provoke, please. I only see two skills is has that say 'Increase enmity'. None of them say ANYTHING about being put at the top of the aggro list, so I don't understand where you're getting any of this. All I know is that the Enkindle for Titan just drops a DoT puddle.

    And yes, a bard is a support DPS, but he can't do all the support at once that you're suggesting that Puppetmaster/whatever can do a lot more than just base support. Healing/Tanking/DPSing. It sounds like you want a class that can do everything all at once.

    All in all the way you're trying to suggest/explain things just looks like something thrown together kind of quickly.
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    The SCH fairy looks ok but SMN pets look like potatos. If they add another pet class there will be a 50/50 chance of the pets turning out like SMN pets. I understand why they look that way(because the devs wanted to cut down on screen clutter for low end PCs and ps3's) but it certainly lowers the appeal of the class for me. I'd be ok with never getting another pet class tbh.
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    Last edited by Elim; 06-11-2017 at 04:22 PM.