[Devs] Add high-end content for light party too, please

[ChiefCurrahee]

No offence, but if your having trouble mustering up 8 players in a linkshell, its much more reasonable to get a better linkshell over attempting to convinve SE they need to add 1/2 group content based on your LS limitations.

It's 2:45 in the afternoon on Thursday. at this moment 15 people in your LS are on, 3 are AFK, 3 are new(low level), 4 are in a SH and the other 5 are gathering for Ifrit, or the Moogles, or for what ever else that REQUIRES 8/8.
Why not just allow the 5/8 PT go and fight Ifrit, just scale the difficulty, or allow them to enter.

I don't think anything in FFXI required a set number of members to enter just a minimum. Why do you need a requirement for XIV?

[Coglin]

It's 2:45 in the afternoon on Thursday. at this moment 15 people in your LS are on, 3 are AFK, 3 are new(low level), 4 are in a SH and the other 5 are gathering for Ifrit, or the Moogles, or for what ever else that REQUIRES 8/8.
Why not just allow the 5/8 PT go and fight Ifrit, just scale the difficulty, or allow them to enter.

I don't think anything in FFXI required a set number of members to enter just a minimum. Why do you need a requirement for XIV?

To answer that, because the "endgame" content needs expanded, and they cannot add content and new loot if they are spending that time adjusting content to scale down and creating a scaled down loot table.

Again, my stance is that you need to grow your LS and expand your friends list, or develope a friends list or join a LS with players more akin to your play schedule over diverting SE development resources to adjust the game around your issues as an individual. I can give 1000 reasons they could tailor the game to my personal needs as anyone can, it does not mean it feasable to brush off eveyone else to tailor to those needs.

I have nothing against them removing the 8/8 limitation so folks can opt to go in shorthanded if they desire though.

I mean, I could be wrong, but I would be willing to bet those wanting 1/2 group content is certainly a very small majority.

[Deminia]

It's 2:45 in the afternoon on Thursday. at this moment 15 people in your LS are on, 3 are AFK, 3 are new(low level), 4 are in a SH and the other 5 are gathering for Ifrit, or the Moogles, or for what ever else that REQUIRES 8/8.
Why not just allow the 5/8 PT go and fight Ifrit, just scale the difficulty, or allow them to enter.

I don't think anything in FFXI required a set number of members to enter just a minimum. Why do you need a requirement for XIV?

I agree! It is so frustrating hanging around trying to find the last person required for a group. There are so many times when I would have happily joined a group, but they only had some party members already and I knew I didn't really have enough playing time to hang around. I hate joining a group, wait around looking for someone for 30 minutes or longer, only to have to bow out because by the time we found enough people, either I or someone else had no time left to do the event.

Scaling it to match the number of participants would be great, but I'd be ok with a partial party even if the difficulty were left alone. One thing I loved in FFXI was the ability to enter many instanced events that were designed for a group with just a few people (or solo) for the challenge of it. I really miss being able to do that here.

[Kiote]

I have to agree, Making all of the High level Content 8/8 is very exclusionary. We need light party content to give people something to do when their entire LS isn't on atm.

[syntaxlies]

There is ifrit, DH, now mog... next patch another primal for full party ?

Please devs, add some content that allows only light party to enter 4/4 and will be on similiar level like ifrit or DH, etc. So some people at least could play end-game content.

I played Ifirt like 9x, DH 3x and I wonder if I will be lucky enough to find party for mog.
No everyone can find party SE (I am not from NA or JP and I am having hard times to find party for these events - impossible). I hope I am not alone and ppl will support this 4/4 raid idea. Thank you.

there's re NM's SH's darkhold i think they allow 4 or 6 now instead of 8, cant remember. so the only 2 things in game will be moogle and ifirt that require 8 people.

[Kiote]

there's re NM's SH's darkhold i think they allow 4 or 6 now instead of 8, cant remember. so the only 2 things in game will be moogle and ifirt that require 8 people.

For most people, content like Darkhold is impossible without 8 people.

[syntaxlies]

For most people, content like Darkhold is impossible without 8 people.

yet they complain to be able to do it with less

[Nakiamiie]

There is ifrit, DH, now mog... next patch another primal for full party ?

Please devs, add some content that allows only light party to enter 4/4 and will be on similiar level like ifrit or DH, etc. So some people at least could play end-game content.

I played Ifirt like 9x, DH 3x and I wonder if I will be lucky enough to find party for mog.
No everyone can find party SE (I am not from NA or JP and I am having hard times to find party for these events - impossible). I hope I am not alone and ppl will support this 4/4 raid idea. Thank you.

You will find a party, the party search feature is coming in for that exact reason. Also, you can simply join an endgame linkshell with plenty of people willing to do those things.

Still, having content specifically designed for 4-persons parties would be fun too.

[Jennestia]

As long as the content isn't comparable to Primal battles or anything that would offer better rewards -- Why would anyone want to do content with more people if they can get just as good if not better rewards by soloing or with 2 others? This is the problem with MMORPGs lately, they went from a social type of game to lone wolf heaven, almost a glorified single player game with restrictions given needing to take into consideration network and engine management.

I seen a comment that said "I don't want to play with everyone" why would you play a video game genre that was originally designed because people wanted to play with everyone? Times do change, yeah but MMORPG is very much a stagnant genre -- New MMOs may come out but they sure do accommodate the "single player" play style lately that is better left for offline gaming.

In the future I'm pretty sure there will be more content for light parties, which from what I remember Yoshida said mostly lowerish - mid level content would be for light parties while high level content would be for full parties, and rightfully so.

[BlaiseLallaise]

In the future I'm pretty sure there will be more content for light parties, which from what I remember Yoshida said mostly lowerish - mid level content would be for light parties while high level content would be for full parties, and rightfully so.

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you on that one. In an ideal world everyone who wanted to do high-level content would have access to 7 other individuals at all times. But this is far from ideal. Sure, I would love to have all my friends join up, but I only managed to get 3. So we are automatically excluded from high-level content due to circumstance? That's just wrong, imo.

That said, I agree that the best rewards should be reserved for the harder (full party) content. Yet at the same time there is no reason they can't build a low-man version of high-level content with good loot, though noticeably less so than the full-party content. If other developers can manage to pull off this kind of high-level content balance, what excuse does SE have to be so exclusive?