Can we PLEASE get a GC Re-Assignment?

[Atoli]

There is absolutely no reason for our not being aloud to change company. It was a Horrible design decision that has come back to haunt people constantly.

Allowing us to change companies would not hurt this game in any way.

Yes it would.
One thing this game seriously needs is something definite, something different from the "you can do everything you want but since that is kind of impossible everything is kind of the same".
I'm not happy with the choice to make CNJ and THM into pre-white and black mage because I liked them before, but it was needed to define their roles.
GCs are kind of the same:
If you were able to hop from one GC to the next all the time, there would be no sense of belonging to something.
It would also be the opposite of what a GC actually is - an army of rival cities.
I doubt they'd just let you go and join their rivals..

[Kinseykinz]

It's a shame you and your friend choose different cities. But there were plenty of warnings that new items and drops would come from each city etc. and to not pick one based on the current rewards. Besides, once we get jobs and time goes by, maybe the very city you are both in now IS the city you want to fight for.

I think that it is a GOOD thing people can't change their Guild Company. We need some pride/competition events and game play added to this game and these companies are one way to do it. Guild Companies might even be a way of building friendships and creating teamwork between people who would otherwise never meet in game. Also good.

If and it's a BIG If, they ever allowed for a guild company change it should be one HECKA quest to betray your current city to join the ranks of the other. After all, who wants a traitor on their team :P

This being said: I wouldn't expect being able to change companies until sometime WAYYY after 2.0 comes out. However, in time yes, it will probably be added. But it's not something as simple as letting you swap companies by answering a couple menus. If it was, we'd all think 'boy, that was lame.' Properly setting it up that we can switch guild companies will require quests, storylines, punishments etc. that all take time to plan, create, write, localize, test, etc. ...time SE is spending doing other, more important things. (Again, they warned us MANY times Company Choice is forever)

[quantumsaint]

It's silly to lock people out of what little available content there is. It's also utterly ridiculous the people who don't want to be able to switch Grand Companies, yet want to be able to switch race/gender upon 2.0. How is that logical at all? Realistically, if someone wanted to drop Immortal Flames to join Twin Adder, you'd think Twin Adder would welcome them with open arms. They need all the help they can get, not to mention the work you had put in before for them. Now, how does a Lalafell become a female Roe, or a male Mi'qote or any of the possible combinations that will probably be available to users at 2.0? Does not compute.

IMO, they need to let us switch GC, just charge the max amount of seals for your rank to drop out (thus severing your ties to the GC) and charge a hefty fee in gil (traitor tax) if you ever want to join them again.

[Chardrizard]

What will we tell our kids when you came up with an idea that traitors can just pay money and be set free? they should be under military probation after dropping out (won't be able to join any GC for 30 real life days).

[quantumsaint]

What will we tell our kids when you came up with an idea that traitors can just pay money and be set free? they should be under military probation after dropping out (won't be able to join any GC for 30 real life days).

The Garleans are invading your city. "Oh, I'm sorry Signore Chard, you can't help us defend Gridania, because you used to do some work for the Immortal Flames. Come back in 30 days, and we can use your help then, if we're not burned to cinders by magitek cannons."

Imminent threat is imminent.

[Kinseykinz]

It's silly to lock people out of what little available content there is. It's also utterly ridiculous the people who don't want to be able to switch Grand Companies, yet want to be able to switch race/gender upon 2.0. How is that logical at all? Realistically, if someone wanted to drop Immortal Flames to join Twin Adder, you'd think Twin Adder would welcome them with open arms. They need all the help they can get, not to mention the work you had put in before for them. Now, how does a Lalafell become a female Roe, or a male Mi'qote or any of the possible combinations that will probably be available to users at 2.0? Does not compute.

IMO, they need to let us switch GC, just charge the max amount of seals for your rank to drop out (thus severing your ties to the GC) and charge a hefty fee in gil (traitor tax) if you ever want to join them again.

The difference is this:
When we opened our FFXIV game and installed it for the first time we could only choose from the current playable races. So some people who would have rather played as a female Roe or Male Kitty didn't have the option and settled by playing as a less-ideal race/gender in their opinion. And while yes, they would be able to re-roll, that is unfair as well since the choice wasn't available then. This is why many of us support gender/race re-rolling.

Now Company Swaps are different: SE warned everyone they were final...even during the cutscenes you are warned this. The menu asks 'Are you sure.' Also, when SE introduced the new company system, they allowed you to choose any of the companies. They didn't say 'Hey, we're gonna add new game content that wasn't offered when you started playing at release, and might have affected your choice in starting city, but force you to be a member of the Grand Company of your starting Nation.' Instead when they gave us this new content, they gave us a choice.

Those who wish to change race/sex would like the same choice.

Notes:
I will stay a female lalafell when choices are offered (I like my character as is)
My starting city and Guild Company city are also the same (again I liked my city)

Also, I only personally support race/gender changes to any previously un-offered races/genders. But wouldn't waste time splitting hairs over it if all races/sexes were open for change.

[quantumsaint]

The difference is this:
When we opened our FFXIV game and installed it for the first time we could only choose from the current playable races. So some people who would have rather played as a female Roe or Male Kitty didn't have the option and settled by playing as a less-ideal race/gender in their opinion. And while yes, they would be able to re-roll, that is unfair as well since the choice wasn't available then. This is why many of us support gender/race re-rolling.

Now Company Swaps are different: SE warned everyone they were final...even during the cutscenes you are warned this. The menu asks 'Are you sure.' Also, when SE introduced the new company system, they allowed you to choose any of the companies. They didn't say 'Hey, we're gonna add new game content that wasn't offered when you started playing at release, and might have affected your choice in starting city, but force you to be a member of the Grand Company of your starting Nation.' Instead when they gave us this new content, they gave us a choice.

Those who wish to change race/sex would like the same choice.

Notes:
I will stay a female lalafell when choices are offered (I like my character as is)
My starting city and Guild Company city are also the same (again I liked my city)

Also, I only personally support race/gender changes to any previously un-offered races/genders. But wouldn't waste time splitting hairs over it if all races/sexes were open for change.

Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

Immutable decisions, race, gender, these things you are born with (barring gender reassignment surgery in the most advanced civilizations) being able to be changed vs. being able to pick a different faction, even though you already were once a recruit, and they are in dire need of soldiers. Sure people can wave the "BUT S-E told us, so it's okay!" flag, but it doesn't mean it makes a lick of sense when you view the situation from a logical point of view.

[normalforce]

I don't see a pressing need for a GC reassignment, but I wouldn't mind to see more joint operations between the Grand Companies. Though, I guess that's part of what Free Companies will bring.

[Kinseykinz]

Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

Immutable decisions, race, gender, these things you are born with (barring gender reassignment surgery in the most advanced civilizations) being able to be changed vs. being able to pick a different faction, even though you already were once a recruit, and they are in dire need of soldiers. Sure people can wave the "BUT S-E told us, so it's okay!" flag, but it doesn't mean it makes a lick of sense when you view the situation from a logical point of view.

Look, the OP just wanted to be able to swap companies. SE warned all Guild Company Decisions were Final.

The race thing really belongs in a different thread. But I'll say this. You are arguing that allowing players to change race/gender will hurt emmersion...well so does getting on a headset and hearing a male voice come out of a female character but we all live with it.

Fairness and opportunity:

Guild Company Choice: After being WARNED several times, players still made a choice they were unhappy about. Also, you did not NEED to choose a company yet. (only thing you wouldn't have completed is Ifrit and a couple of the higher quests and a chocobo). So if people were unsure, they could have simply watched and waited. Now if one day SE adds another City and Guild Company, yes people should be allowed to leave their current company to join the new one. The reason: It wasn't part of the original offer and it would be unfair to lock more veteran players into their original Company choice simply because they started playing back when there were only 3 companies to choose from.

Race/Gender Choice: The new dev team wants to fill in the missing races. There are a small minority of folks who really want to play those missing races. Why would you penalize them for choosing a secondary race/gender simply because they weren't offered their first choice? This isn't about immersion. It's about being fair and allowing those who were dedicated from the beginning or at least pre-gender release to get the same options and offers new players to the game do.

Every single one of us saw the exact same questions when we signed up for our guild company. So our choices were all based on the exact same options and information. For now, the same is true of race/gender. However once they release new races and genders, the information you, me and everyone else currently on these forums had when we created our character was different than what new players would be offered. Therefore, it would loose fairness.

The only reason I answered the OP with how they would need to create storyline etc. to support a GC change is because it's true... and also to support the point that it's not as easy as answering a couple menu options.

And while yes, there is NO way under the sun to explain a female lala turning into a female roe, that's not the point. If SE can figure out a way to keep our character data and allow for gender change, then it should happen. But it won't be something added to a storyline. The best way to handle it is 'old friend died in the great battle of the Umbral Era....hello new friend' and leave it at that. But unlike the GC's which ARE created as content and storyline, races and genders are not true storyline creators, rather our identities.


And no, in the real world, Armies don't accept desserters from other Armies, historically, they usually kill them(or force them to spy)...even in times of great duress.

[Jynx]

The Garleans are invading your city. "Oh, I'm sorry Signore Chard, you can't help us defend Gridania, because you used to do some work for the Immortal Flames. Come back in 30 days, and we can use your help then, if we're not burned to cinders by magitek cannons."

Imminent threat is imminent.

Signore Chard: Sup I want to be part of this grand company and fight the good fight for the (Immortal Flames)
Flame Guard: Sweet! Sign up here, here are some company seals to get you started off with our orginiza....Where are you going?
Signore Chard: Fight? Pride?...man I got my shiny new Axe screw you suckers.

Signore Chard:Sup I want to be part of this grand company and fight the good fight for the (______)...