About 90% healers are lazy and often nasty

[Feidam]

I kind of get the feeling the OP stands in AoEs or tries to ignore mechanics a lot...

This definitely could be the case. Of course it could also be the case of a player learning game and every group just teaching them to burn the boss. Granted that still usually involves moving about. I say this because I've doom mechanics not removed because people didn't know to remove them.

[Risvertasashi]

This definitely could be the case. Of course it could also be the case of a player learning game and every group just teaching them to burn the boss. Granted that still usually involves moving about. I say this because I've doom mechanics not removed because people didn't know to remove them.

To be fair, Doom is usually a penalty for failing a mechanic anyways (first Dun Scaith boss being an exception).

Anyways, I say that because my anecdata is quite different from the OP. The last time I encountered a healer that wouldn't raise even once was back in 3.1. If it was "90%" (but let's ignore the statistic and just go with "the majority of healers", shall we?)

Ok, so let's say the majority of healers spitefully don't raise. In my time of doing a few hundred instances this expac (not as a healer, or with a cohealer)... where on earth are all these non-raising healers hiding? If there's that many we should be seeing them all over the place.

Now, what's more believable is a healer that stops rezzing after someone dies over and over again. There's the practical limitation of swiftcast and MP, and some healers may feel it's futile after the 5th res. But, you know, if it's just one person this happens to while the rest of the party is fine.... there is a problem, and it's not with the healers.

In the end we know nothing of the OP's specific experiences. And there are bad healers out there, and spiteful healers out there (but hey even a lot of the spiteful healers will spitefully raise and heal you). To claim the game is overflowing with them, though... well, IDK, I'm not seeing it. Are you?

[Aramina]

Ok, so let's say the majority of healers spitefully don't raise. In my time of doing a few hundred instances this expac (not as a healer, or with a cohealer)... where on earth are all these non-raising healers hiding? If there's that many we should be seeing them all over the place.

They only come out if you feed them after midnight. Or get water on them. Like Gremlins.

edit: Just in case we have any non-movie buff youngsters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlins

[Feidam]

I'm not seeing it. Are you?

I don't see it often but i've seen it every now and then usually because said healer doesn't have swiftest. i'm not excusing the post it comes off as an exaggerated rant. Most likely it was due the reason's players have stated, but I won't deny there are some trolls out there that will do what the op claims. Granted it's more like 2 % and totally not worth a thread on the forums.

[Seraphyna]

In the end we know nothing of the OP's specific experiences. And there are bad healers out there, and spiteful healers out there (but hey even a lot of the spiteful healers will spitefully raise and heal you). To claim the game is overflowing with them, though... well, IDK, I'm not seeing it. Are you?

Let's see:

• If you're constantly standing in AoE's and not dodging and die, I'm not raising you.
• If you've died, 2/3+ times, you've gone through your allotted raises.
• If you're my co-healer and you've been too busy dpsing the entire time to heal at all, there's no way in hell I'm raising you since you're not needed anyways.
• If you die by animation lock, you get a raise.
• If you're a nublet, say you're new or still learning the dungeon/raid/whatever it is, you get moved up in party list, babysat, and you get as many raises as you die.

I'm guessing the OP falls in the first one.

If the fight is almost over or done, there's no reason to raise, return and shortcut back.

If I have to choose between healing the tank and raising, guess what I'm choosing? Not the dead guy. So stop dying and dodge OP.

[Mikazuki_Aura]

This definitely could be the case. Of course it could also be the case of a player learning game and every group just teaching them to burn the boss. Granted that still usually involves moving about. I say this because I've doom mechanics not removed because people didn't know to remove them.

At least the good thing is that we can now use Rescue on some of these jokers the first time around, the first time the Doom mechanic appears.

If they still don't get it afterwards... :3

Or maybe the OP is refering to healers not using Raise, EVER, like, not even once... I'm usually the healer in a dungeon but I've seen plenty of this happen in open world content, where sometimes it's quicker to raise someone and save them running back from the nearest atheryte (in the case of FATEs or a hunt). And muggins here usually ends up doing all the raising, because the other healer(s) can't be arsed to. And I'm talking once, not about wasting several raises on the same person who keeps dying to mechanics over and over. I've never seen this in dungeon content though, so yeah OP is generalizing in the extreme!

One of the good things about the lack of a class switch cooldown now is that I get to raise dead newbies in the open world regardless of which class I'm using at the moment.

You're telling me you've actually run into healers that purposely rip hate off a tank? You should probably consider how the heck the tank lost hate to begin with before getting annoyed at a healer for "wanting to tank" lol

I've actually had hate ripped off me as a PLD in the HW era at low levels by a crazy healer who spammed both AoE attacks and AoE heals. My options were to alternate single target threat between two targets and continue with damage with Flash off Blind cooldown, or forgo damage entirely and spam Flash like a madman. I chose the first option, and that healer essentially tanked one mob while I tanked the other two in each triplet. Obviously, drawing 6 mobs is not an option with a healer of that type, especially when neither DPS was AoE-specced at that level.

And I've also encountered one tank who died in the first 3 trash mobs in Haukke Manor normal, since the tank didn't know the meaning of mitigation, and the Scholar healer didn't seem to know the meaning of healing. Ended up tanking everything as a monk instead since I ended up having more damage resistance than the tank, although less AoE threat generation.

Still, I'd say crappy healers and/or tanks account for maybe 2.5-5% of my play experience so far, and that was already enough to basically prod me into playing the near entirety of my cooperative content as either healer or tank to avoid the small chance that I get stuck with the ultra-rare bad tank + bad healer combo from Haukke.

P.S. Haukke Scholar even wanted to use a yellow Carbuncle when the tank failed, although it would have crap for damage, and wouldn't be able to keep aggro against either the tank or my monk. Ugh.

[Clethoria]

If you are dying often enough to conclude that 90% of healers are lazy, it's a you problem. If you are basing a judgement on nearly all healers based on a couple of occurences, it's still a you problem.

Thisss. It's only an issue when, as someone else has stated, the healer just doesn't rez at all. My first experience with Final Steps was like this and the healer outright said they wouldn't rez me. Why? No reason. They just didn't.

[Chrallmal]

I'm not saying that 90% of the healers you've run across weren't lazy and/or mean by your definition. However, to say that 90% of all of us are that way is painting with a really broad brush.

It's usually not very smart to walk into the water company and call almost all of them lazy and mean because your water was weird for a few moments a few times. Piss them off and see what happens the next time you turn on the tap.

I think this is a case of over-reacting to a bad scenario.

Or, as Kitfox said, bait.

[Lyndina]

Im a new player in this game,leveled a whm as my first class to 60. Now im playing sch. When you are healing content you dont know very well,and the tank decides to pull like the whole instance you dont always have the chance to cast a 8 Second skill. Same with bossfights. When the group together gets a hell of dmg you cant really waste these 8 seconds,when the next aoe comes and you need your mp. Sure,if i have swiftcast ready,then theres usally no problem to rez-if i have the mana for it. But sometimes you dont have the time to rezz someone who gets knocked down couple seconds later. 8 Seconds sureley arent much as a dd-as a healer it can mean life or death for a tank and so your whole party.

[Reiryuu]

Interesting fact. About 89% of statistics are made up on the spot in an attempt to prove a point. Including this one!