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    Jei Sumnter
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    Trend towards Microtrans

    I don't believe it has become excessive yet, but the recent changes in the Calamity Salvager, Jump potions, and the number of new outfits being released to the Mog Station seems to indicate an increasing focus on cash shop content.

    If this continues I for one will be cancelling my subscription and moving to another game. I object to paying a monthly subscription and then being asked to buy the content that I should be getting in my monthly subscription. If I want to be bothered by micrsotrans I'll just go play one of the many many F2P MMO's.

    Most of the new content added to the game seems to be tied to paid expacs anyway. It makes me wonder how they will continue to justify asking players to pay a monthly sub.

    Thoughts?
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    There are already several threads about this ongoing atm. I get people's concerns but do we really need another? Link
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    Last edited by Naria; 06-09-2017 at 06:54 AM.

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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    So... you wanna quit because they have optional items in the cash shop that you don't need?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    So... you wanna quit because they have optional items in the cash shop that you don't need?
    The real question is:

    Why does my sub include content I don't intend to do but not glamour items I do intend to use? I'd rather get access to optional glam items with my sub than cross-subsidize optional content I have no interest in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    The real question is:

    Why does my sub include content I don't intend to do but not glamour items I do intend to use? I'd rather get access to optional glam items with my sub than cross-subsidize optional content I have no interest in.
    Because content is more valuable and important, were as glamour items are not as important and aren't needed.

    Maybe try to start a petition where you can set up a payment plan/bundle for your subscription?
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    Last edited by Medicine; 06-09-2017 at 08:24 AM.

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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Your sub is not used for the cash shop items as they are self-funded. If the cash shop disappeared 5 minutes from now those items would not magically appear in game, they would cease to exist at all.
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxpheras View Post
    Greetings!

    We understand that many of you are eager to be able to exchange your Little Ladies Day attire from this year's event. We'd like to let you know that the dev. team is working on adding these items to the Calamity Salvager. In the mean time, we apologize for any inconvenience and ask for your patience as we work to make these outfits available.


    The items are coming to the salavger. People need to just calm the hell down.
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    People just want to find any reason to quit and cause an uproar.

    If you wanna quit, then quit. You don't need a trumped up, blown-out-of-proportion reason to do so.
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    It amazes me the amount of sourness that exists towards the cash shop.
    I think it's very naive to think that the subscription you pay has to go only towards stuff you want and your sub fee is inclusive of absolutely every single piece of content.

    Does the existence of the cash shop hinder your ability to play the game at any level? Is there a need to purchase something in order to unlock content in the game? No. Everything is accessible. That's what your subscription supports and you should be happy with that.
    If there's a secondary cash shop, then so be it, everything in there is optional. If you actually surf through it there's only mounts, emotes, clothes and random potions. None of it has any impact on the game. I think some people need to stop feeling so entitled just because you pay a monthly subscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mylam View Post
    It amazes me the amount of sourness that exists towards the cash shop.
    I think it's very naive to think that the subscription you pay has to go only towards stuff you want and your sub fee is inclusive of absolutely every single piece of content.

    Does the existence of the cash shop hinder your ability to play the game at any level? Is there a need to purchase something in order to unlock content in the game? No. Everything is accessible. That's what your subscription supports and you should be happy with that.
    If there's a secondary cash shop, then so be it, everything in there is optional. If you actually surf through it there's only mounts, emotes, clothes and random potions. None of it has any impact on the game. I think some people need to stop feeling so entitled just because you pay a monthly subscription.

    Imagine if Netflix or Hulu decided to make all Hulu and Netflix original series a side service and required you to pay for each new original you wanted to watch, on top of your already established service fee. Aside from that being incredibly ineffective as those originals work as elusives in order to sway customers to each respective service. It would essentially be "double dipping" consumers. Hulu actually has a bit of shade thrown at it, as it has two services one that offers commercial free streaming and one that has commercials, same exact shows yet the commercial free service cost 11.99.

    Now with FF14 the sub we pay grants us access to the servers, character creation, and 2 free retainers. But we can buy more retainers, glamour packs, dyes, emotes, music, and mounts. People aren't mad that there is a cash shop, people are mad that some of the cash shop items aren't able to be obtained in game. For example if you want the gear the Knights wear in The Vault, you have to shell out real money, instead of them dropping the gear as a very rare drop, have it crafted, or obtained through story mode. Again look back at my example with Netlfix or Hulu, there would be an uproar if Netflix decided in order to watch Stranger Things season 2, you'd have to pay 5.99 to have access to season 2, but season 1 is included in the fee.

    The only things that should be in the cash shop is name changes, server transfers, weddings, and fantasias. Since those services have to do with your account, and limited server availability, they do not function like buying a Mog Mount or buying an emote.
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    Last edited by Jetstream_Fox; 06-09-2017 at 08:55 AM.

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