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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutefisk View Post
    I'm really curious about how that sparring match cutscene from the CGI trailer is going to work ingame. Fingers crossed we'll get different scenes based on your choice of job instead of having to pretend you're a monk.
    My guess would be that the scene ends before collision, meaning that we'll do that charge animation regardless of class. Then we are doing the battle in gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfCheese View Post
    My guess would be that the scene ends before collision, meaning that we'll do that charge animation regardless of class. Then we are doing the battle in gameplay.
    Well now I feel dumb, the thought it could be some kind of intro to a main scenario solo duty didn't even cross my mind.

    Not much more to add right now that wouldn't be repeating what other people have said, but I'm kinda bummed that the old resistance guy bites it so fast. He seemed like he could be an interesting character but maybe he has some more presence in the story through flashbacks.
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    There is a lot to absorb, so where shall I start?


    Well, I'll begin with the music. Other than being awesome, I like how it gives a sense of patriotism. A very fitting theme for Stormblood.

    Is it possible that the Lalafell mages attacking the gate were of the Thaumaturge quests?

    Y'shtola is probably fine, given that they wouldn't have showed it if it meant otherwise. It's more likely that she'll be out of commission for a while. At least, that is what I hope...

    Did Zenos just beat the the Warrior of Light in SINGLE COMBAT?! What sort of monster is he? I suspect Ascian meddling.

    I know she is a villain and all, but I admit that Yotsuyu is drop-dead gorgeous. (Also, that was probably not her voice. Sounds too friendly.)

    That scene with Lyse and WoL at Rhalgr's palm, I hope that is an actual scene in the game and not just a trailer exclusive.

    I think Alisaie is going to be alright, though I can't say the same for Yugiri.

    Estinen has not retired!



    Anyways, the hype has entered interstellar orbit and why hasn't cryosleep been invented yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfCheese View Post
    Is it possible that the Lalafell mages attacking the gate were of the Thaumaturge quests?
    While this was my initial reaction, it very quickly fell apart. The robes and staves are wrong. Some of the lalafells in the trailer are using Flame Lieutenant staves and they appear to be using generic Austere Cowls and not the modified/red version nor the modified Darklight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfCheese View Post
    Did Zenos just beat the the Warrior of Light in SINGLE COMBAT?! What sort of monster is he? I suspect Ascian meddling.

    There are some hints that the Garlean Empire's rise to power may have been influenced by the Ascions in the game similar to how the Ascion's influence the Allagan Empire by providing them information how to create their advance technology, among being the technology to capture and seal Bahamut, and eventually tricked them into destroying the world.

    As of now the Garlean Empire is the Asicon's greatest asset to bring about Zodiark's return due to the amount of corrupt and dark hearted natured people in high position of power. Garlean Empire is not so "united" as they make themselves to be as we seen several times that they are suffering from constant conflict and power grabs from within behind the scene just like every other Civilization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    There are some hints that the Garlean Empire's rise to power may have been influenced by the Ascions in the game similar to how the Ascion's influence the Allagan Empire by providing them information how to create their advance technology, among being the technology to capture and seal Bahamut, and eventually tricked them into destroying the world.

    As of now the Garlean Empire is the Asicon's greatest asset to bring about Zodiark's return due to the amount of corrupt and dark hearted natured people in high position of power. Garlean Empire is not so "united" as they make themselves to be as we seen several times that they are suffering from constant conflict and power grabs from within behind the scene just like every other Civilization.
    On the other hand, Yoshida is on record multiple times as saying that the Ascians have very little to do with Stormblood.

    I would personally greatly prefer it if Garlemald has as little Ascian meddling as possible. That might be a pipe dream, given typical Ascian activities, but it's too convenient to have them be doing what they're doing because of mystical arbiters of darkness and destruction. It greatly dilutes any themes related to human nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji View Post
    On the other hand, Yoshida is on record multiple times as saying that the Ascians have very little to do with Stormblood.

    I would personally greatly prefer it if Garlemald has as little Ascian meddling as possible. That might be a pipe dream, given typical Ascian activities, but it's too convenient to have them be doing what they're doing because of mystical arbiters of darkness and destruction. It greatly dilutes any themes related to human nature.
    Honestly the Ascion do not directly influence people into doing bad things but whisper words that may peak their "Human nature".

    Only direct actions the Ascions makes is to stop the WoL.

    Everyone else they just act as the Devil, whispering promises and provided information to certain things with them ending their words with "do as you will" thus leaving it up to the "Human nature" to decide if they take their word or not.

    Ascions do not need mind control to influence all these people either good, bad, law, chaos, or neutral as by their "Human nature" they naturally act in the way the Ascion's expect them to of their own free will believing themselves to be doing it for whatever reason they believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    The Blessing of Light doesn't work against mortals.
    That maybe the case, but us as WoL has fought and defeated not only supernatural, godlike beings but mortals as well. Notable examples :

    - Fought Gaius to standstill (arguably it was 8v1 battle).
    - Fought some of Heavensward knights in mortal form to the point they resorted to go primal but we still defeated them.
    - Defeated Regula twice. We had our allies at first, but went to beat him solo at second fight.
    - Defeated Raubahn in 1v1 duel (arguably he lost an arm, but it's still not easy feat).
    - Defeated Ilberd, a skilled mercenary on par with Raubahn.
    - And numerous dungeon bosses that's not outright voidsents or primals.

    It is noted that us as WoL are stronger than a regular mortal even without the Blessing as Nabriales found out the hard way. We don't even need the Blessing's full power to fight and defeat primals like Ravanna, Bismarck and the Heavensward. The Blessing gives us an edge, notably from the danger of being tempered but since we can't use it fully or even at will, most of the time we fight and prevail with our skills alone, be it against mortals, primals or Ascians.

    I speculate that the reason Zenos can beat us easily is because we're already worn out from storming the gate, and Zenos' appearance will likely come as a surprise to everyone. Seeing Y'shtola defeated/seemingly killed may also factor in it, since it's not the first time we get distracted from seeing an ally injured (cue Haurchefant).

    That aside, I'm quite hyped with the preview of RDM new limit break, especially the two sigils shown when it's casted.





    The blue/white sigil looks similar with current WHM symbol, but the red/black doesn't look like BLM symbol and I don't remember ever seeing it in game. Maybe it's the symbol of BLM during time of Mhach, or the city's own symbol.

    And I guess we all knew Lysse would have something up her sleeve but I didn't think it would be a blade!
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    Y'shtola no! T T
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    Honestly of the three "deaths" foreshadowed in the trailer I think the one most likely to actually happen is Krile. I wouldn't be surprised if Y'shtola did die at some point but killing her off (as another member of the Circle of Knowing) at the beginning of Stormblood so soon after Papalymo's death would just make for odd pacing, especially since they have already forshadowed an entirely different sword hanging over her head. Krile on the other hand is more or less redundant as a "researcher" character now that we are no longer looking for Minfilia, as well as less established. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we encounter some sort of Garlean/Allag primal tech that Zenos was developing that requires the sacrifice of an echo user to defeat--and Krile steps forward in the place of the WoL.

    . . . please stop killing the popotos, SE.
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