Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[Fyce]

(opinion)
As a tank I will never vote to remove a healer that keeps me alive. If a healer that has not let me die is removed, I will consider leaving the run. I will in fact vote to remove any healer that consistently "lets" party members die for any reason. I will give my commendation to a healer that is going above and beyond the minimum requirement of keeping people alive, if all they do is heal and someone else is using all of their toolkit then they will get my commendation.
(/opinion)

(opinion)
A player who's only active for 20% of a dungeon should never get a commandation. That player isn't even trying.
Opening the commandation menu, clicking on that player's name, and then clicking okay takes more efforts that the total efforts this player put in the whole dungeon.
(/opinion)

I guess some people are softer when it comes to carrying others. Kudos to you, I can't stand that. Not only they wouldn't get a commandation, but I'd initiate a votekick too after asking "Hey, can you do something?" and they answer "No".

In all honesty, would you really consider playing this game "work"?

Oh come on, you know what I meant.

[Welsper59]

Time is definitely a thing to consider when someone is willingly choosing not to DPS. The common argument of "It's only going to take you 5 minutes more" doesn't end there. Do 12 dungeons with a healer who doesn't DPS and those 5 minutes just became 1 hour.

Do me a favor and watch this for an hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEGlhNZuOPM

Congratulations, now you know what it feels like to have your time wasted over the course of 12 dungeons because "I'm a healer!!"

You're suggesting you should have static control over a variable like time? Are you delusional? Again, self accountability... why would I subject myself to intentionally waste my time through my actions if that's not what I want to do? It's sad that accountability is not understood. I literally pointed out why time is not a good argument, but you ignore it lol. I guess time is wasted when people fail to reflect.

[Aramina]

Why for the love of all that is holy does it have to be either "never dps" or "always dps" when the correct answer (as I am convinced everyone actually knows) is "Heal when you have to, do something else productive when you don't".

Scenario A: Tanks/DPS are not taking much damage. I stand there doing nothing.
Result A: I am a bad teammate.

Scenario B: Tanks/DPS are taking a good bit of damage. I stand there casting broil.
Result B: I am a bad teammate.

Scenario C: Tanks/DPS are not taking much damage. I put up my dots and use broil for a filler.
Result C: I am a good teammate.

Scenario D: Tanks/DPS are taking a good bit of damage. I heal them all up.
Result D: I am a good teammate.

Also, to people claiming it is only bad dps that say healers should dps.

My main: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/8484881/
Alt 1: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/13295338/
Alt 2: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/17948241/
Second account: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cter/15185361/

So no, it is not only bad dps that think this way... it is also people with a good bit of experience as healers.

[Noata]

This argument is stupid. Healers don't need to DPS. Yoshi-p even tells us the game does not factor in Healer DPS to clear content. If you want to help the teams damage between casts good for you. Is it needed... well no, and it certainly shouldn't be demanded by someone or expected. I mean they removed cleric stance... you know the thing healers were switching to in a dungeon to do damage only to be unable to heal effectively and someone may or may not die as a result.

They even made healers special and put ALL their potential damage tied to their main stat. Yay they can now easily balance your damage and make it possible to solo story content while keeping you Exactly where they want you for group content. To make things even more fun they created fun mechancis that require you to spend most of your time healing to be able to utilize them... Ya... that director TOTALLY isn't letting you know early on that you MIGHT want to heal.

I get it, you want to say... with down time they should contribute, but its circumstantial and entirely their choice. DPS don't have to ignore their positionals and stand in AoE's for regular content, but they do. Just like for the content healers don't have to DPS, How desperate are we for DPS that our tanks and healers need to go in just to make our clear viable... I main a DPS and though I don't have as much experience as others at raiding, I can definitely clear a dungeon, and the DPS a healer does for the TOTAL dungeon might save us... what... 4 minutes optimally?(Everyone Overgeared and just perfect synergy) maybe more if the dungeon is mostly trash and you can spam AoEs.

Stop worrying about other people, if they succeed in their primary role, be it tank, DPS, or Healing then the dungeons should be smooth, if you need to milk every ounce of DPS possible... you should get gear... not yell at the guy healing you while you stand in AoE's or rezzing you when you fail a mechanic. Plenty of healers love to fill their time with hitting the enemy, but understand making sure you can is their primary job. Everything else is optional extra and many love to help out, but don't expect EVERYONE to do that.

[Kosmos992k]

I enjoy being considered superior. People use it as an insult but they're still admitting to my superiority so it's all good in my book!

You clearly consider yourself to be superior, that is not the same as others considering you to be superior in any way. However being considered to be superior isn't being considered to be elitist, it's being considered to be elite. Elitists are not among the Elite, they simply believe that they are. The fact that you think being called an elitist makes you a member of an elite group demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the terms, as well as the extent of your egotism.

[EorzeaHero69]

I mostly DPS as a healer if I believe the tank will be fine on HP. Some people might not be able to healer dps because they're either not 100% comfortable with stance dancing yet or a tank isn't properly geared and his hp is going down too fast even if using proper cooldowns (I've seen stuff like that before). I mostly get a bit irritated when people don't focus enough on mechanics. Sure healer DPS can help a lot, but it's not that important if too many people die from not enough heals or none at all.

[SaitoHikari]

I enjoy being considered superior. People use it as an insult but they're still admitting to my superiority so it's all good in my book!

True elite do not need to tell people that they are as such to assert their superiority.

Power is given, not forced.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Time is definitely a thing to consider when someone is willingly choosing not to DPS. The common argument of "It's only going to take you 5 minutes more" doesn't end there. Do 12 dungeons with a healer who doesn't DPS and those 5 minutes just became 1 hour.

Do me a favor and watch this for an hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEGlhNZuOPM

Congratulations, now you know what it feels like to have your time wasted over the course of 12 dungeons because "I'm a healer!!"

That vid is super cute though :3

[Bdyer]

We could always take this to the logical conclusion that if healers only have to heal then a tank only has to tank and running into mobs and just spamming flash is acceptable.

[Velox]

I enjoy being considered superior. People use it as an insult but they're still admitting to my superiority so it's all good in my book!

And it only took a single statement just proved one's inferiority to the rest of the playerbase. Bravo.