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    Shake it off would actually have a purpose with pacify...
    I don't mind pacify being gone but why do we need that skill now? It feels like they added that skill before they decided to remove pacify from berserk. It's just useless now.
    Sure you can argue that Warriors can remove debuffs now which might be a nice niche skill. No it's not. They will not add a mechanic that makes it even remotely needed in this game.
    It should not take up a warrior skill but be put into the role tree instead.

    They could've given us something useful and fun instead. I mean look at the paladin kit for example this is done right every bit of it!

    Shake it off could be a lvl 25 MRD skill for all I care. It should not take up a high lvl Warrior skill, it comes one expansion too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Shake it off would actually have a purpose with pacify...
    I actually would argue they gave it to the job after changing berserk.
    it would, but it would also be absolutely broken on a tank job. especially considering shake it off has a 60 second CD as well. you would effectively have a unconditional 50% damage buff every 60 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saber_alter View Post
    I actually would argue they gave it to the job after changing berserk.
    it would, but it would also be absolutely broken on a tank job. especially considering shake it off has a 60 second CD as well. you would effectively have a unconditional 50% damage buff every 60 seconds.
    Sure, but if they had given WAR SiO in Heavensward, they could have simply changed the cooldown to 120s or even 180s, so you can only benefit every other Berserk on your own.

    For what it's worth though, at high level play, it was an unconditional 50% damage buff because of The Warden's Paean. You just had to harass your resident bard for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    I play WAR enough. My first few years on it, I had a Berserk macro and still wouldn't get cleansed. That third year, I removed the macro, and still wouldn't get cleansed, but because people say I didn't have a macro.

    Fast forward to today, with a macro, I STILL can't get cleansed. That said, I'm used to the 5 seconds of down time.
    Yeah, cleansing pacify is hit or miss depending on the people you end up with in DF and PF.

    Personally, I'm glad Berserk pacification is going away forever, along with WARs having to harass people for a cleanse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcspamm View Post
    Sure, but if they had given WAR SiO in Heavensward, they could have simply changed the cooldown to 120s or even 180s, so you can only benefit every other Berserk on your own.

    For what it's worth though, at high level play, it was an unconditional 50% damage buff because of The Warden's Paean. You just had to harass your resident bard for it.
    or a healer. that's besides the point. Warrior had to rely on someone else to get that demerit mitigated or removed.


    and lets face it, WAR's heavensward kit was perfect already. you'd lose out on one of 5 amazing actions for a self cleanse that was literally there for one buff or when you inevitably screw up.
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