Just another SCH thread

[SweetPete]

Today it seems Yoshi P has stated that the media tour builds were over a month old and there have been allot of changes since then. It got me wondering. What would you guys hope they changed for sch other than bane which I'm sure that will stay the same. For me I will make a little list. Feel free to add or tell me my changes are op or no chance of happening lol.

1.) Dissipation to work as normal but lower the CD a bit maybe to 120-150 and resummon the fairy when done.
2.) Give each fairy it\\\\\\\\'s own buff like ast has for each sect.
3.) Increase the percentage of fey wind and lower the CDs of fey illumination, convenant and caress.
4.) Silent Dusk needs to be removed and replaced with a new support ability.

What do you guys think? Any other hopes for 4.0 for SCH!

[Ceasaria]

1) Rework Selene

2) Improve Dissipation

3) Replace Excogitation by Fey Union

4) Rework Chain Stratagem : put links between several players (max 5). The players linked gain 1% damage by players linked together (max 5%).
If one player is affected by Fey Union, the players linked to him receive the same amount of heal less 20% and drecrease again by 20% for the next player, etc.
If a player is too far from another player to whom he is linked, the link will break.
Radius : 7y
Range : 15y
Duration : 20 sec
Cooldown : 90 sec

5) New skill level 70 : Summon Phoenix

Need definitively more new stuff, management, rework and adjustement about Fairy and all skills related.

[VampericKitteh]

1) Rework Selene
5) New skill level 70 : Summon Phoenix

Need definitively more new stuff, management, rework and adjustement about Fairy and all skills related.

I agree with these two points the most, and the last part. I feel there should be more focus on Faeries for a SCH. They should play a much bigger part in the SCH toolkit. I agree with OP as well that each faerie should have their own buffs like the sect stances for AST.

As for the Phoenix thing, it was always a dream of mine from 2.0(Before the personalized limit breaks) to have SCH summon Phoenix as their LB3, sadly I learned that Phoenix is already in the game (never cleared that content myself) and the hopes for SCH getting Phoenix were gone. HOWEVER now that SMN gets to summon Bahamut the hopes kinda sparked back up for sometime in the future lol.

[LegoTechnic]

Scholars aren't summoners. I would sooner expect Phoenix as a SMN utility move, though I don't anticipate it given the in-game lore. Despite Bahamut, Phoenix is likely forever out of player hands, at least this early in the story.

At least as a primal, that is. His variant makes a cool mount.

Given the tooltip changes of Summon I and II, Eos is the "healing" fairy and Selene the "support" one, and they both fit this. However I'm a little concerned with their pokemon 4-move nature and how they haven't really been addressed since the release of HW when Selene's awesome spell speed skill was reworked into the current triviality. I'm also a little concerned with the redundancy of Fey Illumination and Largesse, and if having both of them as well as Dissipation is going to somehow cause us issue further down the line. I mean we never asked for more divine seal effects, and yet here we are with three of the bloody things...

[Cynfael]

I'm still waiting for my man-fairy, and don't tell me he can't happen. If Lily can have Eos and Selene as aspects, there's nothing preventing SE from adding to the faerie lore to introduce further aspects. Basically anything can be retconned in a high-fantasy/high-science-fiction setting like this.

But yes, SCH has had the same two tinkerbells for years, and I want something new. Phoenix-egi would be fantastic if Phoenix didn't play such a pivotal part in the main story. Sure, a justification could be cooked up, but in this case I think it's best left alone.

Would also prefer to see SCH shielding options expanded and/or empowered. AST's Nocturnal Sect has encroached way too far onto SCH's turf, just as Diurnal is competing too closely with WHM's ostensible burst and HoT superiority.

[Canadane]

Faerie.
It's spelled faerie.

[Cynfael]

Faerie.
It's spelled faerie.

You're adorable, but I reserve the right to name my own hypothetical summon whatever I wish. When referring to the existing critters, I will properly refer to them as "faeries."

[LegoTechnic]

I'm still waiting for my man-fairy, and don't tell me he can't happen. If Lily can have Eos and Selene as aspects, there's nothing preventing SE from adding to the faerie lore to introduce further aspects. Basically anything can be retconned in a high-fantasy/high-science-fiction setting like this.

But yes, SCH has had the same two tinkerbells for years, and I want something new. Phoenix-egi would be fantastic if Phoenix didn't play such a pivotal part in the main story. Sure, a justification could be cooked up, but in this case I think it's best left alone.

Would also prefer to see SCH shielding options expanded and/or empowered. AST's Nocturnal Sect has encroached way too far onto SCH's turf, just as Diurnal is competing too closely with WHM's ostensible burst and HoT superiority.

In Greek mythology, the Titans Hyperion and Theia had three children, the goddess of dawn Eos, the goddess of the moon Selene, and the sun-god Helios. While Eos is healing and Selene is hasted support, there was a lot of speculation based off dev chatter back in ARR that with HW we might get a 3rd fairy specialized in buffing, but this obviously turned into the reveal for ASTs. Perhaps it was considered early in development, but we will likely never get Helios since he's been repurposed as the name of AST's AoE heal.

[Cynfael]

In Greek mythology, the Titans Hyperion and Theia had three children, the goddess of dawn Eos, the goddess of the moon Selene, and the sun-god Helios. While Eos is healing and Selene is hasted support, there was a lot of speculation based off dev chatter back in ARR that with HW we might get a 3rd fairy specialized in buffing, but this obviously turned into the reveal for ASTs. Perhaps it was considered early in development, but we will likely never get Helios since he's been repurposed as the name of AST's AoE heal.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the story. I was definitely disappointed when ASTs got "Helios" as a skill.

I suppose we'll have to find something else Greek to name our flying dude.

[Hanayumi]

Dissipation -Easy fix just give it an auto re-summon much like Smn's Summon Bahamut, Dissipation should really have this as well. Also dunno how things work but the fairy bar should still increase during dissipation if it doesnt.

Aetherpact/Fay Union -Pretty underwhelming, it really needs something else along with the heal, so why not add a heal crit rate buff to target as well. It could also change depending on the fairy out, like a increase heal crit chance for Eos, and a more potent single target fey wind buff for Selene.

Chain Stratagem -We're loosing a bit of dps because of the nerfs for Smn, so why not just add some damage to Chain Stratagem, it actually seems like reasonable skill to have some potency.

Quicken Aetherflow -A pretty useless passive. Although prolly too late to do cause would need to change the UI, why not just add another Aetherdam, no rng and happy sch with 4 stacks.