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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
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    I would prefer that they plan to have the appropriate staff available when they make a decision that is probably iffy. I swear for all the "I love online games. I play online games. I am a gamer" They have very little touch on things that are going to go bad. Hunts a mob the whole server can get credit on. That isn't going to turn pout poorly. X amount of houses to be released on servers that have 10 times the amount of players and a login server that can't handle the stress. Houses open for reclamation over Xmass. Diadem giving raid level items in random drop. These aren't even balance issues. They are awesome game design that is going to cause the player base to be upset. In fact they should also have more GMs on when introducing this type of content.

    Instead of all this promo pre SB. A launch job guide made by the dev team would have been way better. Because we needed SE to spend the money and time putting on 3 fanfests with so much info. The media tour the time spent at E3. Maybe work on game release game promo after.

    Also the fact other games have ptr limits some of the crap that goes on in the forum. Might be time to evaluate why that works so well for other games. But oh no the lore. Heaven forbid someone knows someone dies. As if they aren't coming back two patches anyway. I swear people need to think about what quality story telling is. This is no better then those soap operas that used to air.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 06-07-2017 at 08:28 AM.

  2. #82
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    The devs have a marked habit of telling people a tad too much and then the community comes back and bites their head off as thanks for being included. Seriously, people overreacting is terrible... Next time they shouldn't show anything at all until release, so that we can avoid these frankly ridiculous issues.
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I am saving this for when the next housing fiasco gets ignored on the forums so I can link back to how awesome communication is. Also maybe for the next Diadem because that has been pure gold so far. Or maybe when the bots are rampant in N than leveling rdm/sam to 70 and that gets ignored.

    It is easy to say they communicate. Any little info or gesture can count.
    Again, nothing to do with communication. Housing and Diadem are implementation problems, they heard but what they were able to do is limited. just because they can't fix everything the way we want them to doesn't mean they don't listen. and they often don't respond because there's nothing good to say.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    Again, nothing to do with communication. Housing and Diadem are implementation problems, they heard but what they were able to do is limited. just because they can't fix everything the way we want them to doesn't mean they don't listen. and they often don't respond because there's nothing good to say.
    So basically when the game has problems silence is the answer? Then this is pointless. They can create problems and because they can't fix them and they know they are bad they can just ignore them? Then we have no point having anything from the dev team or asking for anything. They can create a problem and move on. And I don't mean a player can't keep his blm buff up because he doesn't have the perfect positional. I mean stuff we can see miles away. Open world housing, open world mobs, random raid drops from almost fates, gating content behind story, I could go on.

    Maybe you are right and they just think we should live with it. Even if we can't see why they would make such poor decisions. Which actually has been the sort of go to move.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
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    You sort of missed my point, my point was SE HAD new builds out for the classes, instead they showcased an old build. Why would you show off something old, when you have a revised version that is more up to date? SE created this discrepancy by not using current build gameplay, and they're the ones who are ultimately at fault for allowing the "Delete WHM" threads to spring up. Had Yoshi not mentioned about a different build then this post and much of the outcry over WHM would likely have never of happened.
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    Look, to setup the tests and demos for the videos and such, you need to prepare them. By the time that was done, the devs had tweaked things. What do you do, stop and re-do everything using the new build? But if you do that, you'll never get done and then you can't show off anything. It's even possible the folks setting up the demos don't even have access to the new build. Work on the game is continual. When you want to show something off, a cut-off must be done. But work doesn't stop in the background.

    I think you're being unreasonable here, and frankly this is common sense.
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    Last edited by FaileExperiment; 06-07-2017 at 10:49 AM.

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    Sorry for the sass but I really am just sick of whiny entitled lil brats today so here we go...

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Someone could say that Zhexos is not a dev, but a forum rep.
    So, let write more pages into this thread until a dev write something in japanese ^^
    Because responding to the community's many demands is a great use of the developers talents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I am saving this for when the next housing fiasco gets ignored on the forums so I can link back to how awesome communication is. Also maybe for the next Diadem because that has been pure gold so far. Or maybe when the bots are rampant in N than leveling rdm/sam to 70 and that gets ignored.

    It is easy to say they communicate. Any little info or gesture can count.
    If the devs stopped to address every single 'WAH I DONT LIKE THIS' issue, we would still be waiting for the first patch of ARR to come out.
    YES they do communicate. Its just not always about the things you think are priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaileExperiment View Post
    Look, to setup the tests and demos for the videos and such, you need to prepare them. By the time that was done, the devs had tweaked things. What do you do, stop and re-do everything using the new build? But if you do that, you'll never get done and then you can't show off anything. It's even possible the folks setting up the demos don't even have access to the new build. Work on the game is continual. When you want to show something off, a cut-off must be done. But work doesn't stop in the background.

    I think you're being unreasonable here, and frankly this is common sense.
    I dont think half of the people complaining have a clue about what is involved with corporations, and how much work is put into any kind of fanfest/show before hand.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Sorry for the sass but I really am just sick of whiny entitled lil brats today so here we go...

    If the devs stopped to address every single 'WAH I DONT LIKE THIS' issue, we would still be waiting for the first patch of ARR to come out.
    YES they do communicate. Its just not always about the things you think are priority.
    I am tired of the apologists and sycophants (is bootlicker a better word). If the devs took a second to think before they implemented open world content or took their hardware into consideration maybe we wouldn't have this discussion. I don't need a thousands of hours in game design to see that a mob where the whole server can get credit with random spawn is going to go over. Specially when we already had a fate system in place and know how that worked. Yet here hunts are. Here you are saying everything is ok and we should just let them be.
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I am tired of the apologists and sycophants (is bootlicker a better word). If the devs took a second to think before they implemented open world content or took their hardware into consideration maybe we wouldn't have this discussion. I don't need a thousands of hours in game design to see that a mob where the whole server can get credit with random spawn is going to go over. Specially when we already had a fate system in place and know how that worked. Yet here hunts are. Here you are saying everything is ok and we should just let them be.
    Okay. You've like entirely lost me. Everytime I make a comment, you spew off some other radical issue out of left field. WHAT DO YOU WANT?
    I dont even know anymore lol. It's comical. Clearly you want them to stop and address every tiny little issue or flaw you can think of. Again... they have priorities, if they stop to talk to you every time you stub your toe we wont see another patch or expansion for 1000 years.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-07-2017 at 11:44 AM.

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