Developer lack of communication

[Pluvia]

They actually responded to a lot of the player feedback in basically all of their forums. Infinitely moreso than the replies to feedback on the FFXIV forum, anyway.


How do lack of changes = no communication?

Is Blizzard perfect? Heck no. They're just substantially better than square in replying to feedback.

You say that but I took part in the alpha and beta of legion and they flat out ignored issues we brought up 6 months before the expansion released and took weeks or months to actually do anything about it let alone admit there was a problem. All of us testing DH telling SE hey we have too much AoE damage you may want to look into it Ignored until a good month after release when they have to finally nerf it because all they were taking for mythic + runs were DH.

Mythic+ gives way to much AP compared to the rest of the activities no statement about it until they nerfed the gain of AP from it and gave the same reason we told them. Countless problems with how certain classes play that they flat out ignored and later fixed I can't even count on both of my hands. they constantly give the statement of our internal sims are more accurate and later on have to backtrack after a whole raid tier of classes being complete shit. So pardon me If i think they're way worse about class problems then XIV is and WoW has alpha and beta tests so what excuse do they have and this wasn't just Legion they do it every expansion.

[Kaurie]

You say that but I took part in the alpha and beta of legion and they flat out ignored issues we brought up 6 months before the expansion released and took weeks or months to actually do anything about it let alone admit there was a problem. All of us testing DH telling SE hey we have too much AoE damage you may want to look into it Ignored until a good month after release when they have to finally nerf it because all they were taking for mythic + runs were DH.

I am saying that they responded to some feedback. There were blue posts which basically said, we've heard what you are saying and here is our response. It wasn't for every single piece of feedback, but it was there and widespread. Again, Blizz ain't perfect, but they give infinitely more communication than we get from Square.

Note that actually making changes is not the same thing as communication.. Here is an example..

Player A: Class X's ability is too weak and needs adjusting to remain balanced.

Company A: Thank you for the feedback, we actually are finding on internal sims that Class X is perfectly balanced.
Company B: .... Patch Notes later: Class X's aoe has been buffed by 10%.

Both listened, but A actually communicated, even though B made the change and A did not. B still didn't communicate anything.

[Remedi]

Again, Blizz ain't perfect, but they give infinitely more communication than we get from Square..

No offense, but they tried to hide the change to Mob scaling their HP and dmg with your gear during PTR and completely ignored ANY feedback about it, then when they couldn't hide it anymore because it was blatant they said they had no feedback about it on PTR despite forums post about it, so I'm afraid I'll have to disagree, blizzard is simply the worst they only listen to what benefits them. BTW this was more obnoxious because it come right after they said they would become more clear about changes in development and PTRs.

[ShinMetsu]

Maybe they should just not post anything pre-patch notes anymore and not pre-view changes.
Then we could just read the 100% accurate patch notes 24h before servers go up.

That should make it better, right.. ? People won't complain then, right.. ?

[Selova]

As someone who plays WoW as well, I can say that Blizzard does a much better job at communicating with their playerbase than Square does. Just look at all of the blue-post responded threads on their forums vs here. They aren't perfect, but that was specifically what I was thinking of when I said that two-communication sucks here.

Those are community managers, not game developers. It's their job to engage the community as well as relay information from the devs. The developer to player communication is nearly non-existent, the only time they ever post is when a feature they add to the game gets so much negative feedback that they are forced to intervene.

[Riardon]

Everything is subject to change as they said many times. It's not dev's fault when people are so eager to spam threads about the death of WHM and other nonsense before the expansion even gets released. What has to stop is all those premature theory crafts and death talks. Let the thing gets released first then try it out in the new context and then give serious feedback in the official forums. Threads like "Thx SE my WHM is now deder than ded" is not constructive feedback. Also you have to keep in mind that translators do many mistakes even when they are professionals.

[MisterLucie]

Everything is subject to change as they said many times. It's not dev's fault when people are so eager to spam threads about the death of WHM and other nonsense before the expansion even gets released. What has to stop is all those premature theory crafts and death talks. Let the thing gets released first then try it out in the new context and then give serious feedback in the official forums. Threads like "Thx SE my WHM is now deder than ded" is not constructive feedback. Also you have to keep in mind that translators do many mistakes even when they are professionals.

"Our players are dumb and hysterical, let's completely ignore their concerns and just let them all be mad." is a very bad PR philosophy.

"This is an old build and the WHM design has been improved since then." takes about five seconds for a rep to type and calms a lot of people down.

[Pluvia]

"Our players are dumb and hysterical, let's completely ignore their concerns and just let them all be mad." is a very bad PR philosophy.

"This is an old build and the WHM design has been improved since then." takes about five seconds for a rep to type and calms a lot of people down.

Seems to work for WoW and really it flat out does say things are subject to change but I can understand if you want the watermark all these videos have to be directly posted into the forums. No one is saying they can't give feedback though

[Felis]

"This is an old build and the WHM design has been improved since then." takes about five seconds for a rep to type and calms a lot of people down.

But they said it

Every video I've seen said the same thing. This is under development and subject to change. It is watermarked on every video.

Do they really have to say how old it is instead of just that it is old?

[MisterLucie]

But they said it

No, they didn't. "This could potentially maybe perhaps change" doesn't mean anything. "This is old and it has changed" means something.