XIV on Switch and Xbox

[Emorelle]

I just read that Yoshi is still in talks for the Xbox and SWITCH versions. I'm totally not trolling here but didn't we just get rid of the ps3 for power reasons? Is the switch powerful enough to run XIV decently? Would Nintendo ever give up control to allow XIV to do what it does? Discuss!

[Vespar]

I just read that Yoshi is still in talks for the Xbox and SWITCH versions. I'm totally not trolling here but didn't we just get rid of the ps3 for power reasons? Is the switch powerful enough to run XIV decently? Would Nintendo ever give up control to allow XIV to do what it does? Discuss!

Yoshi has been in talks with MS for years regarding an Xbox version. In the past though, Microsoft wouldnt change its policy regarding shared servers with Sony, etc.
If MS is willing to change their policy to allow for cross-system server play, then an Xbox version would likely move forward. (Either that or Xbox users would be all on their own, with their own community)

As for switch... this has me worried. We just got rid of PS3 support.. Why do we wanna bog it down again with limited hardware specs like that of the switch?

[Elkanah]

Yoshi has been in talks with MS for years regarding an Xbox version. In the past though, Microsoft wouldnt change its policy regarding shared servers with Sony, etc.
If MS is willing to change their policy to allow for cross-system server play, then an Xbox version would likely move forward. (Either that or Xbox users would be all on their own, with their own community)

As for switch... this has me worried. We just got rid of PS3 support.. Why do we wanna bog it down again with limited hardware specs like that of the switch?

Since FFXI had cross platform from PS2, Xbox 360 and PC, I couldn't see why we couldn't do this on XIV with the PS4, PC and Xbox One. It was literally done in the past! XD

Does the Switch have the same kind of tech as the PS3?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Since FFXI had cross platform from PS2, Xbox 360 and PC, I couldn't see why we couldn't do this on XIV with the PS4, PC and Xbox One. It was literally done in the past! XD

Does the Switch have the same kind of tech as the PS3?

Microsoft wanted a Final Fantasy title to sell the 360 in Japan. Now they don't care, since the Xbox One is doing horribly there, so they are much less inclined to make an exception. They also want "servers for xbox only" as an option for their players. Yoshi-P disagrees, so there is a standstill until Microsoft budges.

[Tonkra]

Controller Mouse Mode lol (L1 + R3) or for Xbox controller that would be Left bumper + Right Stick in.. On top of that, PS4 is Mouse and Keyboard compatible.

The PS4 compatibility of mouse and keyboard for FFXIV came MUCH MUCH later...

Does the Switch have the same kind of tech as the PS3?

Slightly better as the PS3. Wii U was en par with the PS3 if not slightly better, Versions like Assassins Creed IV were proof that the Wii U version was better as the PS3 Version.


And now the switch versions of games is slightly better as of the Wii U.
I dont see how the Switch would limit FFXIV. I mean it would be no difference to the huge areas of Heavensward or Stormblood.

FFXIV wont get back to fully Openworld since Yoshi P. argumented that they split the game in zones because of server latency.

[Felis]

The PS4 compatibility of mouse and keyboard for FFXIV came MUCH MUCH later...

It came with the launch of the PS4 version.

[Zarex]

the Switch would be one of the worst descisions SE could make to bring XIV to. We finally just dumped PS3 support and that would be like re supporting it and would gimp PS4 and PC quality. Would be nice to have it on Xbox especially with the Scorpio coming soonish but the biggest road block atm is Microsoft isn't opposed to allowing XIV on their console but they require an option to be in the game to only play with other Xbox owners and Xbox gold subscription.

SE woun't budge on the having to make completely seperate servers just for Xbox players

[KisaiTenshi]

Yoshi has been in talks with MS for years regarding an Xbox version. In the past though, Microsoft wouldnt change its policy regarding shared servers with Sony, etc.
If MS is willing to change their policy to allow for cross-system server play, then an Xbox version would likely move forward. (Either that or Xbox users would be all on their own, with their own community)

As for switch... this has me worried. We just got rid of PS3 support.. Why do we wanna bog it down again with limited hardware specs like that of the switch?

The reason Xbox versions never come out is because of Xbox Live requirements. Microsoft wants control over the matchmaking process, and by allowing MMORPG's on the platform, means they don't have to pay Xbox Live. There have been several "complete" MMORPG's ported to use the Xbox 360 but then Microsoft screws them.

I imagine the problem is similar with Sony and Nintendo. Nintendo even separates the cash-shop between Android and iOS users because Android users are more likely to cheat on their mobile phone games. See Pokemon Go.

In the case of the Switch, I imagine that the Tegra platform actually would allow SE to port FFXIV over easier because it uses the nVidia gameworks libraries. nVidia claims the GPU is more powerful than one found in the Xbox 360 or PS3, but that's still speculation because mobile devices typically have power requirements to allow it to run on battery, and you are hard pressed to get "PS3" performance out of a mobile device without it being plugged into a charger full time.

The most powerful mobile device you can buy right now is the Apple iPad Pro (A10 Fusion CPU/GPU, aka iPad 7,4) http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/3036382 , where as the Switch is about the same performance level of the nVidia Shield http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/...seline=3036382 , So to put things in perspective using the Shield as a reference point, the Switch is likely somewhere around the performance of a 13" MacBook Pro (12,1) http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/...seline=2647944 from 2015. The closest single core and multi-core match is actually closer to the i5-4310M 2.7Ghz.

It's a bit hard to say one way or the other, but it's likely that FFXIV running on the switch would be running a "standard, mobile" settings, not "high quality, desktop"

Even then, I think the play experience on the Switch would likely be less intuitive since most touch-screens are terrible for response time, so unless you are going to exclusively use the controller crossbar, I doubt the touch screen will be the main input device. Even on games ported to phones and tablets, "virtual controllers" have generally been extremely bad experiences. Though that didn't stop SE from porting FF7 to one.

[Jetstream_Fox]

Xbox has been notorious with cross server play and lifting the requirements of Xbox Live. I think some of you have seriously never played on a Xbox console, their strict requirements date back to the original Xbox, this is going to be a bit of a history lesson. When Sega released Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 and 2 on Xbox, the game was required to have Xbox Live, plus a Hunters License, it's online service fee. Sega gave the green light for this, released the game, but stopped supporting it because of Xbox wanting to charge for updates, players got annoyed at the lack of updates and eventually started to hack the game, they were able to bring over Dreamcast items, that were planned to be released in content updates, as well as found files that suggested that Sega was considering bringing over Episode 4 to Xbox as a final expansion, instead that was scrapped and it was released as Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst, as a PC only release.

Microsoft has continued to do this, and even stopped the Xbox 360 version of The Orange Box from using steam servers, they also prevented Portal 2 from again being cross play. Sony actually allowed cross play before Xbox ever did and way before any of this started to come back into the main stream with Portal 2.