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  1. 06-05-2017 01:43 AM #11
    Ama_Hamada
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    already closing the skill gap
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  2. 06-05-2017 02:03 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Did they indicate why they are removing ring of thorns. Is it the whole no AoE thing again, grr..... it was a decent AoE move better than that line one.
    They added a new line combo with a new skill called Sonic Thrust.

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  3. 06-05-2017 02:14 AM #13
    Ama_Hamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    They added a new line combo with a new skill called Sonic Thrust.

    Why is it level 62? ring of thorns is 46, so you don't have aoe for 60 caps and below? And straight line ? so no aoe now?
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  4. 06-05-2017 03:06 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustI View Post
    Losing a couple of abilities was a mild shock, but nothing I'll miss in the long run. It's mostly numbers in the end anyway. The only thing I WILL miss are the unique animations that, by my knowledge, will become lost as well.

    Scourge and Ring of Thorns come to mind. I was excited to use both in combination with the new /gpose system, but now this might not be possible anymore.

    Is there a way we can keep the animations? Like.. Dummy the abilities out so it deals no damage of any sort (like the 'attacks' our Magitek Reaper has?).
    Only if they remove the sound effects.
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  5. 06-05-2017 03:20 AM #15
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    RIP ring of thorns. it was fun using you.
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  6. 06-05-2017 03:24 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Why is it level 62? ring of thorns is 46, so you don't have aoe for 60 caps and below? And straight line ? so no aoe now?
    DRG keeps Doom Spike which comes at 42, before Ring of Thorns. It's also the AoE, you're supposed to use as a filler and Ring of Thorns was only good when following Heavy Thrust (when it needs refreshing).

    This change results in a very minor tp loss between 46-62, but you gain a lot more AoE damage and tp efficiency post-62. Ring of Thorns was a trap ability because new players who don't know better would spam it instead of Doom Spike. SE is making changes so it's more intuitive how to AoE.

    About the complete removal, I liked the animation but I'm also not crying for it's sound going away or its spam potential.
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  7. 06-05-2017 03:38 AM #17
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    ..This thread took a different direction than I thought it would take. Suppose any sort of attention is good attention, in this case. >_>

    Though uh.. Suppose we can't put aside our hateboner for Ring of Thorns? It's not just /that/ ability we're losing.
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  8. 06-05-2017 03:43 AM #18
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    RIP dragoon pole dancing, 2013-2017.
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  9. 06-05-2017 03:43 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    already closing the skill gap
    Honestly i would of preferred them keeping Wide Volley and removing Quick Nock, Quick Nock has a range limit, Wide Volley didnt so using it didn't require i be up the enemies arse.
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  10. 06-05-2017 03:48 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    DRG keeps Doom Spike which comes at 42, before Ring of Thorns. It's also the AoE, you're supposed to use as a filler and Ring of Thorns was only good when following Heavy Thrust (when it needs refreshing).

    This change results in a very minor tp loss between 46-62, but you gain a lot more AoE damage and tp efficiency post-62. Ring of Thorns was a trap ability because new players who don't know better would spam it instead of Doom Spike. SE is making changes so it's more intuitive how to AoE.

    About the complete removal, I liked the animation but I'm also not crying for it's sound going away or its spam potential.
    It wasnt that bad if you proced it, but AoE is always better when its circular, lines and cones require placement, and no matter the role getting all enemies in just the right spot is difficult.
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