Gladiator Changes (hopefully for the better)

[buritoslicer]

Until Flash becomes an AoE, holding hate is going to be really hard for both classes.
Whirlwind isnt until upper 40s, and that means most people are only going to hold hate one 1 target until the upper levels...
:/
And honestly, holding hate with just Circle slash and Brandish at 30 (2 extra swings to get tp) was fine for both MRD and GLA. (Unless you only used 1 or the other)

Holding hate for a Gla was never fine with just circle slash and the rest of the moves, it was soo darn broken that a Mrd in the group could easily break hate if he chose to do so... I'm going to imagine most of the changes to Gla were solely for end game in mind... because at the current state of Gla, we are completely broken.

[syntaxlies]

my favorite glad changes

rampart now generate enmity and has 2 min cool down instead of 5 min

aegis boon guaranteed block all blocked damage turns to HP

flash-enmity skill + enhanced flash turns it aoe and causes blind

outmaneuver generates Tp now also

war drum deals damage also now

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

Circle Slash usually didn't cut it for me. Had to Provoke and Taunt to take aggro from a damage dealer. Against a Curaga, I resigned myself to using Cover on the healer instead.

On the Marauder side, Storm's Path dealt good damage to a wide area of enemies on a short cooldown. Broad Swing and Full Swing let me rack up the TP to hit the skill down again. Brandish could fill in the gap if needed. Holding enmity, dealing good chunks of damage, high HP, life was unbalanced.

Started mentioning another mmorpg about balance, removed.

Highly looking forward to the new Gladiator and hoping to make it work!

[buritoslicer]

Circle Slash usually didn't cut it for me. Had to Provoke and Taunt to take aggro from a damage dealer. Against a Curaga, I resigned myself to using Cover on the healer instead.

On the Marauder side, Storm's Path dealt good damage to a wide area of enemies on a short cooldown. Broad Swing and Full Swing let me rack up the TP to hit the skill down again. Brandish could fill in the gap if needed. Holding enmity, dealing good chunks of damage, high HP, life was unbalanced.

Started mentioning another mmorpg about balance, removed.

Highly looking forward to the new Gladiator and hoping to make it work!

Yeah, I'm hoping so too... I'm one of the few Gladiator enthusiasts :P

[Nanaya]

The problem with Gladiator was it's basically the poor man's FFXI Paladin. It does well enough against a single target, but this is FFXIV, a game where roaming parties are pretty much the only way to exp, and fighting several different mobs at once. We get very little in terms of viable AoE tools, War Drum wasn't all that effective, Circle Slash is garbage, they utterly destroyed the blocking system to being trivial, Warmonger is weaker than on MRD, the list goes on for days.

Whereas with MRD, they have a wide array of AoE abilities and weaponskills, Storm's Path alone could allow you to tank for most fights, pretty good defense, and far from terrible HP. I really would love to hear the dev's reasoning behind the changes to these two jobs in 1.19, and how someone didn't stand up and say, "...wait, isn't this terribly unbalanced?"

Regardless, the "Oh shit, let's rectify our mistakes yet again" patch that's coming up looks fairly promising for Gladiator. Enmity should no longer be an issue, even with a large group of enemies, and defense seems to be beefed up even. I am only curious as to if they fixed blocking, that will make or break the job. If you use an ability like Deflection, you damn well better be getting at least a 50% proc rate on it.

[buritoslicer]

Regardless, the "Oh s***, let's rectify our mistakes yet again" patch that's coming up looks fairly promising for Gladiator. Enmity should no longer be an issue, even with a large group of enemies, and defense seems to be beefed up even. I am only curious as to if they fixed blocking, that will make or break the job. If you use an ability like Deflection, you damn well better be getting at least a 50% proc rate on it.

I really hope we can finally block properly again... It's completely ridiculous how it is now... My shield is useless!

[Physic]

i dunno, unless im missing something, mrd basically lost its aoe strength, no access to AOE tp gaining moves, and slower tp in general for the one tp move that has aoe now. Soooo the only people with decent aoe options are maybe lnc and thm. if this is accurate then that alone makes gld better at taking multiple monsters. But since so much is going on at once, i guess we ll see in a couple days.

[ThugHunter]

MRD looks shit now was in a party with a friend last night after the patch, admittedly neither of us had statted our characters yet, but i held the hate no problem, since they have basically lost their AOE ability, its hard for a MRD to pull hate of a good tank, he was provokeing and flashing the mobs and they didn't turn.

[Andrien]

MRD looks shit now was in a party with a friend last night after the patch, admittedly neither of us had statted our characters yet, but i held the hate no problem, since they have basically lost their AOE ability, its hard for a MRD to pull hate of a good tank, he was provokeing and flashing the mobs and they didn't turn.

nice. since the tank is doing an awesome job, thats when DD should go buck wild and unleash fury onto the enemy

[Kiara]

Hi All,

I can confirm Gladiator still can't Parry with Shield equipped.

I can't believe they added new GLA equipment with +Parry. So sad.