A big Problem that MAY come up with Stormblood...

[OmegaFlare]

When HW launched, all roles had pretty good queue times for a while, every role had something new and people were keen to try them out. It stands to reason that doing the opposite will result in the opposite.

Things eventually stabilized out to where we are now, but thinking DPS queues wont get notably worse at SB launch seems naively optimistic.

The problem isn't just because there are only new dps classes. One of those new dps classes is insanely overpowered and popular among FF fans. As if there isn't enough incentive already to try out the new dps class. It's almost like SE wants everyone and their kittens to try out SAM. I, myself, will be sticking with WHM through MSQ so I will be very happy to get priority queuing. After that, I will level SMN and SAM through POTD. I love POTD. It basically solves the dps queue problem.

[Seredeelfer]

OhhhhhKayyyyy - so DPS queues might be longish, and this is different how? And what do you propose SE or we as the community do about long dps queues? Or are we just bellyaching because that's productive somehow?

[Kaurie]

OhhhhhKayyyyy - so DPS queues might be longish, and this is different how? And what do you propose SE or we as the community do about long dps queues? Or are we just bellyaching because that's productive somehow?

Proposed fix is to make content designed for 3 DPS 1 Heal 1 Tank, as that more closely matches the actual breakdown of player proportions.

[Dyvid]

Sigh, so much gloom and doom. Just like everytime a xpac comes out the people are going to divided into three groups:
A) Decided they want to main SAM and RDM. They are committed to unlocking that job and taking it to 70.
B) Decided they don't like the changes to their current job and are going to role something new on the 16th
C) Are going to work on taking their current main to 70.

Group C is going to be full of tanks and healers trying to get to 70 meaning they'll be queue up dailies, doing FATES, Guildleve, etc....
Group A and B are going to be doing dailies and PotD most likely.

Now don't be surprised to see a exp nerf in PotD, either full nerf or levels 61-70 because SE wants you play through their new content instead of skip it so Group C is really going to full of Tanks, Healers, and DPS. In the end I predict it'll be just like normal, tanks will have the fastest queue followed by healers then dps. DPS will most likely have 15 to 20 mins queue depending on data center.

[Venjenz]

Nah, clearly because there are 2 new dps jobs EVERYONE is going to become a DPS, and only a DPS, because... reasons.

This.

I play tanks or heals in every MMO. Rarely do I make a pure DPS class, and it's almost always only AFTER I have maxed both a tank and healer. And flavors of the month only last for a month, and something always replaces them. That's why even with all the PLD love going on, I am sticking with the WAR as my main. It always comes around to your class/job.

When I get to bleeding edge raid time and my FC tells me they need FotM, maybe then I will care, but until then, 99% of the game is just fine wit any tank, any heal and any 2 DPS. People need to relax.

[Araxes]

So it went as preticted. Loads of Tanks, myself included, quittet for a DPS job. (Sam ofc!) I lvld my Tank first but it became boring very quickly, went for Paladin cause of all the nerfs to Warriors and DRK's. So now im Stuck in 50-70 Minute Q's if i wanna play my new Main. Went for a few hunts instead. 4 Sams in one Party. Redmages seem to be at stable Numbers already, dont see to much of them but Hell, i dont think those waiting times will get smaller soon.

[ToasterMan]

Anybody could see it coming from a mile away. I've been sitting in hour ques for leveling roulette on my SAM alt.

I'm so glad I went through the MSQ as a healer......

[Niyuka]

Yes, it happened exactly as me and tons of others predicted, down to the queue times estimated, and Yoshi was completely and utterly wrong on every account.

My guild had roughly half our tanks/healers switch to the new classes or other DPS roles.
I dont know who thought it might be smart to introduce 2 new DPS classes and nerf and wreck 3 of the 6 non-DPS jobs in the same expansion, but this level of incompetence in design is staggering for a company with so much experience in the field. Did you really think making DRKs super-simplistic to play, making WHM new mechanic basically pointless and turning SCH DPS way down so the "i dont wanna DPS" crowd is happy would do anything but drive people away?

Do you think people did not play tanks because it was too hard????? HAHAHAHA! As I said before, Heavensward saw no change to healers/tanks because you introduced one of each class, so every playstyle had something new to play with. People get bored, I am amazed SE does not seem to understand this. People will change classes when they get bored. And if all you offer is new DPS classes, people will change away from tank/heal.

WoW does this so much better for years now, actually most MMOs have realized this. But congratulations, Stormblood is now the "if you play a cool job that you saw advertized, you will have to wait for most of your evening in order to be allowed to play the content they advertized as the best" game. I am sure this will spread like wildfire.

[DragonWarsong]

One of the problems is that DRK was not just nerfed, they also made it vastly less fun and engaging. Many are saying that the nerfs do not affect them, that they will not be worlds first or be in bleeding edge progression; however, no one wants to play something that is unfun and most want to at least entertain the notion of progressive raiding. After having a tank main for over a decade on a lot of different games I might just go DPS. At least I will feel like I'm actually doing something. I don't know how WARs ended after the changes but hopefully, they are suffering better than DRKs.

[HyperSMB]

Edit: On second thought, I may have been wrong.

I can understand and sympathize with the people who think SE tanked their class. Some really dumb and weird things were done to everyone not named AST/PLD as far as non DPS goes.