Thread: Warrior 4.0 Concerns

The new skills are useless (or for a very exeptionnal use). It looks like they forgot the war during the "new skills brainstorm"
The dash is useless for pulling, inner release not for tanking, the pacification removal is just an insult to war that asked for its removal from berserk from years (and maybe inner beast will do the same), and upheaval ... must be discussed : with berserk its potency ups to 390, but it cost delays the next fell cleave, so its long term potency is 390-200 = 190 (to simplify : fell cleave cost is 50 gauge points for a 500 potency => 20 gauge points roughly a 200 potency cost on dps)
3.0 brought a real dps/OT game play to the WAR, now it is just less fun and less usefull in raids, whereas the other tanks gain new usefull skill and other utilities in raid.
Say good bye to them in the 4.0 ...

Originally Posted by Didje

with berserk its potency ups to 390, but it cost delays the next fell cleave, so its long term potency is 390-200 = 190 (to simplify : fell cleave cost is 50 gauge points for a 500 potency => 20 gauge points roughly a 200 potency cost on dps)

Dunno how you're coming up with this, FC costs a GCD which means every time you use FC you're using it in place of something else, so the weight of FC is a GCD potency - FC potency. Upheavel, however, is a flat gain as it costs no GCDs and you can even immediately gain back it's cost in the next GCD (Maim, SS, BB, SE, and SP). With or without Berserk it takes 2 1/2 Upheavels to push back one FC. It's only fault is that it's just an oGCD damage skill, which is pretty boring, but at least it has a gauge cost to it that makes you have to plan out your GCDs.

While I think WAR's rotation will be relatively static, I think people are having a bit of a dummy target mindset - WAR's rotation, as always, will depend on the fight. You assume that you're constantly able to build gauge and your rotation will line up perfectly, but in all likelyhood something in the fight will throw off your timings. As always with WAR (and most jobs), it's better to build a rotation on a per-fight basis.

Also Onslaught is basically useless in it's current state so hopefully they buff it.

And finally just my thoughts on WAR: I wasn't a fan of 3.0 WAR even though I stuck with it to the end, and now that we're just getting 3.0 WAR but even more FCs and less self healing I'm not really interested. I haven't been able to use IB since 2.0 and that was one of my biggest draws to the class as I liked planning out my IB usage mixed with my CD usage, it felt great to plan out my mitigation based on my GCDs as well as my damage. If content starts hitting hard and we're forced back into Defiance then I might return to WAR, but for now SAM and PLD look more appealing to me. A shame since I like WAR's story so much and it's aesthetic, but ah well I'd rather have fun than wield and axe and be a FC bot.

I was a Warrior main for almost all of HW. But im not sticking to that in SB. 6 Fealcleaves.. yeah.. but with much smaller numbers... its a less quality and more quantity thing. IF i stay Tank then its gonna be Paladin. Otherwise im going Sam.

Originally Posted by Didje

They still have 2 weeks for changing .. Who knows ? Maybe they will re-think it a little meanwhile ...

hopefully, the reaction of the warrior players has been mixed so far even a bit negative SE should change it when there's still time and not let the players wait 3 months in 4.1 to finally get it