Thread: Warrior 4.0 Concerns

I know people are happy with their Fell Cleave meta but I'm going to ask you to put down the Fell Cleave glasses.

One of my major concerns is how inflexible is the class in 4.0, you can't freely make stance dance without being punished heavily, so you have to spend every Gauge point available before you switch and you can't even pre-cast infuriate in order to make a more aggressive headstart and make good use of Schirk to help the MT to have the upperhand in Agro.

Also there is a huge problem in the dmg rotation, after watching some videos and discussing with other WARs our rotation will end basically in:

4 FCs in Berserk
6 FCs + 1 Upheaval in Released Berserk
1 Upheaval in between Berserks, maybe 2

(continue)

No space for anything else, the dmg loss in case you need to change stances is really high, while the other 2 tanks has no penalties in their dmg kit doing a stance dance. Have to point out that vengeance and raw intuition are not generating resource anymore so you can't force all in during berserk windows or use it to fix a gauge miss management so reinforcing the stuck up feeling with this rotation.

And to end my concerns Onslaught.

Upheaval is 300 potency for 20 gauge
Onslaught is also 20 gauge for only 150 potency, if it's less than 300, why would anyone use it? Mobility? When Sprint is unlimited now? It doesn't make sense, very niche since it needs a target, so if the encounter has no adds or the boss simply decides to make a transition out of map you simply killed the skill right there

Also sorry for any grammar mistake english is not my first language.

Yeah. I'm disappointed by onslaught. I've wanted a gap closer for my warrior for the longest time, but costing 20 rage really is a kill joy.

To top it off, infuriate doesn't work out of battle so there's no way to just freely charge.

Just make it cost tp. Not every new skill needs to cost rage.

Get rid of the damage even or increase the cooldown. I don't care. Just get rid of the rage cost.

I wish we had a use for Infuriate's trait as well, I'm not sure how it'll be possibly used, as outside of Berserk, that gauge just isn't going to be used as effectively as with a Berserk FC. Maybe someone will crunch more numbers on that, along with the ramifications of Eye > Path x3 > Eye being the new filler combo and find out something neat.

I feel the trait will work ok for dps. I'm guessing you just fell cleave as much as possible to get infuriates cooldown as close to 30 sec as possible. So you can basically infuriate alone every 30 secs, infuriate plus berserk every minute, and infuriate plus berserk plus inner release every 2 mins.

This is fine since fell cleaving as much as possible is good for dps and takes full advantage of the trait.

But what about tanking? To take full advantage of the trait, you'd have to inner beast as much as possible. But isn't inner beast supposed to be something to be used strategically and not spammed as quickly as possible?

Originally Posted by P4X0R10N

I feel the trait will work ok for dps. I'm guessing you just fell cleave as much as possible to get infuriates cooldown as close to 30 sec as possible. So you can basically infuriate alone every 30 secs, infuriate plus berserk every minute, and infuriate plus berserk plus inner release every 2 mins.

The problem with this is that even after a Release + Berserk cycle(8 post Infuriate GCDs aka 20s, 5 of which are FCs that reduce the CD of Infuriate by another 25s), Infuriate will still be 15s out. When your Infuriate is ready, your Berserk is only 20s away. There is no possible way to use Infuriate in a way that gives you more overall FCs, WITHOUT HURTING YOUR BERSERK.

It seems almost like a mistake or something, maybe it'll become more clear when we get our hands on the class.

As most of warrior (i guess), i am very disappointed by the warrior in 4.0.
"Annex" skills disappear, since it would have been so simple to gather inner beast and fell cleave or triple cleave and decimate to save key bindings.
About tanking i am worred about the lost of "flash", which was perfect for pulling packs and save TPs. Now we will need to save IB gauge for saving at least one Triple cleave. I guess that the new mitigation skills will equilibrate that. My disapointment is more in the philosophy of tanking : i want to play a tank based on vitalily, that means a tank which can regen its life. In 4.0 War looses self-healing skills, but do not gain any others. If i wanted to play a mitigation tank, i would have played PLD !
About dps stance (i voluntary do not speak about OT rule, because to my mind war will not OT anymore) it will be so boring to be limited to only fell cleaves : is that what WAR is only good for ? SE : you might be kidding ?