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  1. #61
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    It seems like people forget how much whining there was when AST healing potency was lower than the other healers.
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  2. #62
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    Vraelia Valkyria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    WHY are we asking for nerf or buff WHEN THE BLOODY GAME IS NOT EVEN OUT??!!

    People are either bored or got too much time on their hands.
    First of all. Stormblood is not a game. It's an expansion to a currently played game. Expansions does not equal a game. :P
    Second of all, due to how much information people has gathered. And the amount of time people has gone through to calculate potencies. Yes, we have the right to complain.
    SCH is getting incredibly shafted on DPS.
    AST is overpowered. Replacing WHM. And nearly replacing a SCH.
    WHMs being shit, and not given the fairness it rightfully deserves.
    Devs don't know how to actually think clearly because of 'just AST' thinking when it comes to healers.

    As a SCH, I want my DPS back. I want my Aetherflows to be back to normal. I want the MP cost to scale with my level, as it always have been previously.
    I want the devs to leave things alone and let them be. Changing Aetherflow and increasing MP cost, while nerfing our DPS is unjustly thought out. It really, makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, I understand we're getting Refresh and Lucid Dreaming to make up for it. But, I don't like all these changes that they are doing against both SCHs and WHMs.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    It seems like people forget how much whining there was when AST healing potency was lower than the other healers.
    It's because they're a a freaking HYBRID JOB. It's supposed to be lower. It should NEVER replace a WHM. Nor come close to repalcing a SCH. with their Card system, it shouldn't be anywhere near powerful like a WHM or a SCH is. A hybrid job, is a hybrid for a reason.
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  4. #64
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Seems pretty crazy that people are using things like math and quoted design philosophy to draw conclusions!
    This is where you all got it wrong. Every game has a tier list BUT it all depends how GOOD can you handle or make the class work. It's not about math or philosophy nonsense. If you are shit at your job NONE of these so called calculations will matter.

    As IF you and all have the bloody AUDACITY to start asking for nerfs and buffs

    What is wrong with you people...
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  5. #65
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    This is where you all got it wrong. Every game has a tier list BUT it all depends how GOOD can you handle or make the class work. It's not about math or philosophy nonsense. If you are shit at your job NONE of these so called calculations will matter.

    As IF you and all have the bloody AUDACITY to start asking for nerfs and buffs

    What is wrong with you people...
    Huh?

    /10char
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    This is where you all got it wrong. Every game has a tier list BUT it all depends how GOOD can you handle or make the class work. It's not about math or philosophy nonsense. If you are shit at your job NONE of these so called calculations will matter.

    As IF you and all have the bloody AUDACITY to start asking for nerfs and buffs

    What is wrong with you people...
    I don't know. What is wrong with you? Wanting AST to be the mega powerful healer, that surpasses both WHM and SCH. When both of these jobs are hitting the floor so harshly. Whereas AST is being raised on a pedestal. Tell me, how is this any fair? You're a 60 Arcanist. Certainly you can sympathize with our SCH/SMN cause. Even WHM's.
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  7. #67
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    Has anyone here actually played with these changes yet?
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  8. #68
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    Nope and if they did it wouldn't matter anyways because the potency/tool tips are subjected to change. People are bored and have nothing else do apparently.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    As a hybrid class, I would prefer if AST was more hybrid based. Diurnal and Nocturnal should work like the bard songs, a stance that lasts 30 seconds on a 50 second cooldown or so. Have the ASTs alternate whether they are shielding or regening, and have their shields/regens stack with WHM/SCH. Make WHM and SCH's regens and shields more potent than ASTs, where AST doesn't shine in the potency department, but in the group buffs and ability to regen and shield in a fight. It would make AST more fun to play and it would help keep WHM/SCH both relevant and maintain their strengths.
    tbh that doesnt sound bad! Having them not locked into stances bur rather dance around with it. At the same time they support their party with card buff.
    but not sure how it would play out ;o
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    Last edited by Johaandr; 06-07-2017 at 03:45 AM.

  10. #70
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    Yes I wish their heals were different. I like the way they went with the Lord and the Lady. I always though their cards should play into their healing kit and not just buff the party. I wished their heals played out this way. You have you buff cards and healing cards. You could have your basic heals plus cards that either shield or regen. This would probably be heck to balance but it would give AST their own niche. This would give it a more strategic playstyle IMO instead of being a copy.
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