Do AST really need this Buff?

[Yamimarik]

Don't be such a white knight jeez.. "That doesnt help either" could care less tbh shoo.

And this is my final response to you, because you truly are trolling if you're going to "lolwhiteknight" and throw that term around. I even have said through out this thread that some of the buffs to AST were not warranted at all and didn't need to happen. So no, I'm not "White Knighting" you just want reactions from people, and despite you saying yay or nay, you just want what you want to be back on top, and bring everyone else down.

So done.

Obviously an actual debate and conversation is not possible with you.

[Verdan]

Asts have literally more powerful spells than their counterparts for less mana. That's not 1: tenable 2: fair 3: good

[Valmaxian]

The answer is no, AST did not need these buffs.

[Cyrocco]

The general consensus among all healers, including AST mains is that this is overbuffing.

[Yamimarik]

Thank you o; i think i learned a bit (too much to read i think i almost forgot some important sentence)o;
Also i think you should stop assume things.. it's not cool. And I'm not a troll o;
Not a mega serious person in the forum when it comes to my langauge type.

Maybe don't post things like "Remove Benefic" from AST, nice edit btw, because that was in your original post.

That doesn't help you look like a person trying to give out constructive criticism and being a troll then.

You're also the one who says:

I know these ideas are stupid but please get my point(if it even makes sense).

if you want to be taken seriously then, add something constructive to the discussions going on at the moment for this, not ending with your statement with the above.

So don't you assume I'm just saying what ever I please and it being baseless, because your post doesn't really help you out much.

On the actual topic at hand...

Are some of the things getting changed (just from what we can guess, by what unstable info. we have now) odd? Yes.

Again I don't see a point in giving Diurnal Sect a healing potency bonus at all and removing the speed bonus from it. Nocturnal probably would have been fine staying at 10% as well. But I suppose we'll see the for sure numbers come early access.

[Keikun]

Maybe don't post things like "Remove Benefic" from AST, nice edit btw, because that was in your original post.


You're also the one who says:


if you want to be taken seriously then, add something constructive to the discussions going on at the moment for this, not ending with your statement with the above.

So don't you assume I'm just saying what ever I please and it being baseless, because your post doesn't really help you out much.

On the actual topic at hand...



Again I don't see a point in giving Diurnal Sect a healing potency bonus at all and removing the speed bonus from it. Nocturnal probably would have been fine staying at 10% as well. But I suppose we'll see the for sure numbers come early access.

You play as AST as your main healer, we got that, now you can stop pretending you dont find these buffs OP.

[Yamimarik]

You play as AST as your main healer, we got that, now you can stop pretending you dont find these buffs OP.

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said that.

I just said, being hyperbolic is not going to get anyone anywhere, and nerfing AST now (not what buffs they're getting in 4.0) isn't going to help anyone, and will just hinder AST. I agree actually the buffs are not really something AST needed at all and some of the changes I'm not to fond of. But nerfing what AST is now (not the 4.0 buffs) is not the answer, and that was what the OP was getting at it seemed like... especially with that original line of removing Benefic.

Again if you want to contribute to the discussions going on and want to be taking seriously, don't just throw around stuff that isn't helpful.

So try again!

[Johaandr]

Don't that was what the OP was getting at it seemed like... especially with that original line of removing Benefic.

Again if you want to contribute to the discussions going on and want to be taking seriously, don't just throw around stuff that isn't helpful.

So try again!

Not worth it. One can't take a simple joke. Dramatic dude..

[Eloah]

A little RNG is good makes things feel "fresh" when they should be and effective in times of need. but too much RNG isn't good at all. When AST first came out they made them with too much RNG, but they mitigated it to a decent percent. the new card system is a nice touch, this way each card is viable no matter the situation, but the other things they got are overkill. WHM got tacked on RNG, similar to BARD for 3.0... yeah this will be fun for 4.0 now lol, and SCH had their entire damaging tool kit and AoE removed.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

What we need is a compare and contrast.

AST:
-Stronger base healing than WHM
-Stronger utility
-Low MP cost
-Better MP management
-Strongest potency AOE heal in the game, stronger than Cure III by 350 potency

WHM:
-Flowers.