Do AST really need this Buff?

[AstroZombie]

Ok but quoting to then just argue or bash a person is very rude. Then again this forum is the most toxic of all FF forums out there

I didn't quote you just to "bash" you, I legitimately wanted to know what you meant by your initial comment because I could not (still can't) figure out any way it actually makes sense from a game balance perspective.

If you aren't putting enough thought into your posts that you can explain them, or you can but simply aren't willing to, then you probably shouldn't contribute them to the thread. If your opinion is uninformed or not well thought out its not actually worth anything and until you can formulate your thoughts in a straightforward way that makes sense you're not ready to contribute to a discussion. Attacking someone for questioning your opinion or asking you to explain yourself is also incredibly unproductive. If you take all that to mind when you post you won't get "bashed" by people.

[Maero]

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You clearly stated multiple times i basically did not know what i was even talking about...
I even apologized about my statement, god like seriously.. Yes perhaps i did misread your post but it had sounded like an insult.
Why I thought nerfing is not the solution to all the problems, it just shows there are bigger issues at hand if the solution is to "nerf". That is all i was getting at.
Besides if you had not even bothered to read my 2nd posting i did actually talk more and it was about healing. Stormblood was their opportunity to balance the healers, hence why non were introduced. Maybe nerfing is the quickest but in the long run,, well like i said they where mean't to start "Fresh" to balance healers
Balancing is not buffing jobs that were already fairly great

OP asked if Ast needed a buff, that's it....

[Seredeelfer]

Does AST really need this buff - prolly... It's an expansion with a gear reset. If the new bosses don't hit like trucks I'll be surprised and disappointed.

[Furious]

Ok but quoting to then just argue or bash a person is very rude. Then again this forum is the most toxic of all FF forums out there

What on earth are you talking about? In every forum in existence, there exists a quote function to provide contextual reference to the reply given (if nothing else; to set context for whom the reply is in regard to). Which forums do you go to where people talk to themselves and hope others know why they are talking to?

Arguing and discussing are essentially synonyms, with one having a potentially (but not necessarily) harsher tone implied. Quoting "to bash a person" isn't rude at all; insulting them is, but without the quote to show who it was aimed at it would be rather nonsensical.

[RichardButte]

I can't speak for all ASTs, but I would rather they made cards more useful instead of raw buffs to healing output.

As it stands, the card system is basically just a 1 in 6 chance of getting a damage boost buff.

I feel like they're letting the cards fall to the wayside and just making AST more like a vanilla healer instead.

[LadyKairi]

I can't speak for all ASTs, but I would rather they made cards more useful instead of raw buffs to healing output.

As it stands, the card system is basically just a 1 in 6 chance of getting a damage boost buff.

I feel like they're letting the cards fall to the wayside and just making AST more like a vanilla healer instead.

The cards as is are useful. I've had great use out of all of them ._.

[SuzakuCMX]

The cards as is are useful. I've had great use out of all of them ._.

I don't think royal roading Spear counts.

[RichardButte]

The cards as is are useful. I've had great use out of all of them ._.

It's not bad to use them or anything like that, but the question that needs to be asked is how much of an impact are cards actually having on a fight? And more to the point, do ASTs get enough value out of their cards to justify using AST over other healers?

Right now, I feel like the answer is "yes", but not due to the value of the cards themselves but because AST's healing is strong enough that it's either comparable or possibly better than that of other healers.

I can find the post if needed, but someone had mathed out the value of Spear on a NIN, a class with lots of short CDs that benefit from it, and discovered that even 100% Spear uptime didn't increase DPS as much as Balance does.

I feel like they kind of gave up on the cards and instead just gave AST healing comparable to the other healers, opting to just leave the cards as flavor more than anything.

I guess it works, but it's far from ideal. Maybe they'll do a proper rework later on?

[Verdan]

Ast is fundamentally flawed, and will break the healer balance forever until they make it a different type of healer instead of a copy of a white mage that can also use the scholar shielding tools. There's just no way for it to ever be balanced when it does the same things the other healers do and has cards.

Maybe in the expansion where we go into space and they decide to make a new tank and healer to get DPS balance right things will get fixed. But healers are gonna be in a weird place forever until things change on a fundamental level.

[RichardButte]

Ast is fundamentally flawed, and will break the healer balance forever until they make it a different type of healer instead of a copy of a white mage that can also use the scholar shielding tools. There's just no way for it to ever be balanced when it does the same things the other healers do and has cards.

Maybe in the expansion where we go into space and they decide to make a new tank and healer to get DPS balance right things will get fixed. But healers are gonna be in a weird place forever until things change on a fundamental level.

Hypothetically, if they can make the value of the cards beneficial enough that they're worth bringing a healer with a lower overall healing potency, it could work.

But seeing as how there's so much RNG involved, they'd either need to buff the crap out of the cards or rework them entirely.

With RNG, it would be a razor thin line between "OP" and "not worth using, ever".