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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    What in the world O_o


    I'll make this very simple then. In FFXIV .. 3.5? + ? relics became obtainable by anyone. All you have to do is dailies and a few weekly quests for a month and you get the relic. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I am even proof of this by having 2 relics on this alt account.
    So still no go on main huh? Well enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    So still no go on main huh? Well enough said.
    If someone has Relics/Animas on an Alt they probably have a few on their main account...

    EDIT: I just looked at Ama's main for achievements, which is Aya Hamada, since they use both for the forums, and they have the achievements for i275 DRG Anima along with i260 WAR Anima. That means Ama/Aya has 3 complete animas with one at i260.

    Still don't see your point of "No Anima on your main? I don't have a counterargument so I'll pretend I made my point." Just because someone doesn't have an Anima on their main character doesn't invalidate their point in the slightest. And if it does then please explain to me how.
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    Last edited by magnanimousCynic; 06-04-2017 at 07:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    If someone has Relics/Animas on an Alt they probably have a few on their main account...

    EDIT: I just looked at Ama's main for achievements, which is Aya Hamada, since they use both for the forums, and they have the achievements for i275DRG Anima along with i260 WAR Anima. That means Ama/Aya has 3 complete animas with one at i260.

    Still don't see your point of "No Anima on your main? I don't have a counterargument so I'll pretend I made my point." Just because someone doesn't have an Anima on their main character doesn't invalidate their point in the slightest. And if it does then please explain to me how.
    Obvious with the names and I did not want to waste a post replying to them only so I waited. Anyways I did not even know what he was asking to begin with, in why he was asking for my main... This is not FFXI, that concept was true for ffxi when you had like 150 people across all servers with them.

    Do I need to collect 13 relics to show hey anyone can do relics by simply doing dailies then be accused I am saying sands are too hard?? i do not even know what to make of that post, hence why I said "what in the world" ? I was HOPING simplifying my post would get my point across hoping it was just a misunderstanding but.. I doono what else to say at this point, other then assuming he is salty relics vastly changed concept of purpose going from FFXI to FFXIV.

    Also add on the fact 2.0 > 3.0, 3.0 is really casual in comparison, 2.0 ones.. the rng is unreal.. and making you do fates where some fates you need be there camping them because they fail in 5 seconds -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    2.0 ones [Relic].. the rng is unreal..
    I still have night terrors of the original relic steps pre-nerfs Almost all the steps felt like a challenge itself:

    Base Relic needing Titan HM when it was very tough due to insane lag on launch and the low HP people had at the time.

    Zenith originally needing 3 weeks worth of your capped tomestones. Thankfully Yoshi-P learned to stay away from using capped tomestones for Relic/Anima.

    Atma Drop-rate being like 2% along with needing to farm 12 different zones.

    Animus Books needing FATEs that sometimes took an entire day to spawn. Killing the 10x10 mob per book was also frustrating near release since people crowded the spawns.

    Novus and the horrible RNG of trying to meld past Tier 2 Materia. So people either had to pump in a lot of gil at the time for a good weapon or settle with a subpar relic to avoid the staggering cost.

    Nexus being the light grind to start them all.

    Zodiac being the most insane step pre-nerf; 400k gil for vendor items, 8 HQ crafting items that needed Desynth for all 8 classes along with 2 big fishes, 400x4 Soldiery, 20k x4 GC seals, and needing to farm SIXTEEN different dungeons for a chance to get the needed key item.

    Thankfully the Zeta step was a much easier version of the Nexus step, only with needing tomestones every 1 our of 12 steps of the way.

    The only pre-nerf Anima steps that could compare to Relic steps like Animus or Zodiac in difficulty would be i210 and i240. i170 step may have been challenging to FATE farm but at least you had access to most or all of your toolkit, unlike most zones for Atma. Not to mention that the drop rate was much higher compared to Atma.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Still don't see your point of "No Anima on your main? I don't have a counterargument so I'll pretend I made my point." Just because someone doesn't have an Anima on their main character doesn't invalidate their point in the slightest. And if it does then please explain to me how.
    Unless they allow achievements to be viewed I can't see that. Not to question your integrity, however by them not mentioning that they have it as hidden for competitive reasons, or even suggesting that brings doubt after so many hints. SO unless your their friend and have access I really don't buy it on their end. Glad your looking out for them yet their is a difference in, he said she said. Example my profile can be viewed by anyone. I back up what I say and talk based on experience. I can understand if people are competitive and want to hide their achievements, ( to each their own ) However I trust a person on a logical level not a fictional one.

    Now for your point about Main and Alternate...Everyone plays on different servers for a reason, friends, financial difficulties, ect. I would think most people would use their main in forums ( common sense varies based on perspective ) To give advice / express opinions, I would think they would at a minimum have credibility for us logical types that doubt and are willing to debate their experiences. It's not to attack anyone, it's to proof a point that there are people out there who have posted actual experience models and some that can't back it up.

    If it's a matter of using alternates for posting restrictions, how is a person suppose to know? If they can't edit one response or minimum include that they are only adding more doubt.
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