Anima Weapon...should I bother?

[HyoMinPark]

Considering the only other grindy phase after the unbrite phase is light farming, which can also be done quickly if you jump into the right content for it--especially during bonus windows--it's entirely plausible for you to finish it in the 2 weeks before SB. The Singing Cluster step is ridiculously easy, as is the 270-275 step.

It will give you a decent weapon until level 66-67, and possibly provide a jump start to the SB relic by allowing you to skip the first phase of it, like how the Zeta weapons allowed you to skip crystal farming if you traded one in.

[savageink]

I'd say if you find it fun it's worth doing. It's been nerfed alot. I needed a quick ilvl jump and did the first step so i could get in to Sohr khai. My gear is mostly in the 255 to 220 range but my weapon and a couple accessories were holding me back. If your gear isn't a problem, then it comes down to what you would get out of it. the achievement, the glam, or if you like dungeon running. If i get my accessory problem sorted out and get through the wall and still have time before SB, then I'll probably do it for something to do.

[Deedsie]

Up to you. I know people who went back to work on ARR relics.

[Hamada]

ilvl isn't necessary everything, and if we look at Heavensward, we can probably predict a bit on how long the weapons can last.

I'll be using Dragoon for my example:

RelicLonginus Zeta: i135

Whites
Titanium Folk: i139

Adamantrite Trident: i150

The Relic weapon greatly outclasses the white gear in weapon damage, and I believe the additional stats do not make up for the weapon damage difference (I don't remember the exact weights). Of course, a High Quality version may be different, but I don't have the numbers for those. In this case, the Relic Weapon could last someone all the way to 60 if they don't get a weapon from a dungeon, and despite the ilvl increase it would be a downgrade from the relic.

Dungeon Weapons
Grasitha: i136

Halonic Ostiary's Halberd: i142

The i136 dungeon weapon and the relic are more or less on par with one another; the weapon damage is the same and the stat differences seem rather negligible. This means the Relic Weapon is still essentially top dog at level 55. Now the i142 dungeon weapon is where the Relic stops becoming Top Dog; +1 Weapon damage, more strength, and I assume secondaries are in a similar position. The i147 requires level 57, meaning your relic weapon is lasting you until you reach 57, and this is assuming the dungeon weapon even drops for you to begin with.

The Relic Weapons found their match at level 55 and their superior at 57 in dungeon drops. This isn't to say that the Anima Weapon will definitely find their match at 65 and their superior at 67, it just says there is a bit of a precedence for the Anima Weapon to last until 67, or all the way to 70 if the dungeon weapons don't drop for them.

Some misinformation here but I really do not blame you, I blame SE. They really should make NQs reflect their real level. The only issue with that you can meld NQs with primary stats to offset it. 2 things to keep in mind, you forgot NQs are below their ilevel in stats, compare a i250 weapon NQ to pvp weapon, the 235 ones, almost alike cept a few points off in stats. Dungeon gear =HQ, HQ IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THIS GAME! i doono why NQ even exists. It does not matter what color it is, just Ilevel and the HQ 56 weapon is 1D more, going by this logic you pretty much have a 275 relic be close to whatever awaits at 66 and be a bit under 67-69 weapons, and needs to be replaced at 70.

Also keep in mind that relic your linked has custom subs stats, not no sub stats.

[Yahallo]

Some misinformation here but I really do not blame you, I blame SE. They really should make NQs reflect their real level. The only issue with that you can meld NQs with primary stats to offset it. 2 things to keep in mind, you forgot NQs are below their ilevel in stats, compare a i250 weapon NQ to pvp weapon, the 235 ones, almost alike cept a few points off in stats. Dungeon gear =HQ, HQ IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THIS GAME! i doono why NQ even exists. It does not matter what color it is, just Ilevel and the HQ 56 weapon is 1D more, going by this logic you pretty much have a 275 relic be close to whatever awaits at 66 and be a bit under 67-69 weapons, and needs to be replaced at 70.

Also keep in mind that relic your linked has custom subs stats, not no sub stats.

The problem with HQ is that the game may not give you them. I took a look at the 3.0 Story quest and I only saw two times they gave weapons, 54 and 58. I am going to assume they were HQ (because honestly, it has been way too long) which means you will replace it at level 58 if your dungeon weapon doesn't drop (because let's face it, HQ crafted weapons are probably going to be overpriced on the market board), and as nice as materia is, they don't really match the weight of weapon damage (maybe a grade V in a primary stat).

Also I never said the relic had no sub stats. I don't think I said anything that should even imply that. I also never said color mattered, I said the actual stats mattered.

[Gamer3427]

I've been working on my Anima for the past few days just because I want to finish it up before SB comes out. My reasons for it are mostly just that I want to clear up the quest and see the rest of the story to it, as well as have a weapon with my preferred stats for once, rather than how every other weapon always seems to have one thing that's either pointless or less effective. Ultimately, the decision of whether or not the grind is worth it though is up to you. Stat wise, it'll probably keep you until the 65-67 range as others have stated, and will likely be able to be traded in to skip the first step of the next relic, but at the same time, that first step is usually fairly easy and you can likely get decent weapons for your main class as you do class quests and side quests in SB, and that's not even considering dungeon drops......

[Mature]

If you wanna have that sense of achievement DO IT!

[KisaiTenshi]

The problem with gear in this game in general is that the Relic/Anima weapon is designed around being a time/gil/crafting sink. That's the entire point of it. For the amount of time you spend trying to get the materials to do it, you could probably just wait until the next patch and the process gets nerfed. Because of ilevel sync, most "BiS" gear is of no benefit in a synced dungeon.

Like, I say this as just a way of discouraging farming tomes just to buy some parts of it, If you like the appearance of the weapon, or specifically playing the level 50 or 60 content with the matching level 50 or 60 relic/anima weapon to get a tiny advantage, then by all means. But in the grand scheme of things, the relic/anima weapons are just resource sinks.

Even in other games, similar gold sink/resource sinks exist. So the ability to actually get them is heavily depending on you getting them within the patch window of release, otherwise if you wait too long, the process gets nerfed and the resources to do it become scarce as less people produce the crafted materials.

Whatever class you main, is the only one that is worth doing this for. If you're not in love with the appearance of the weapon in it's final form then stop now.

If Yoshi-P/Square-Enix really cared about these quests, they would rethink the strategy so that it doesn't need to be nerfed after a certain point. Like simply having one weapon go through the process should be enough to be able to repeat the process on other jobs at discount, or "transform" one weapon for one job into one for another job if you've decided to change your main class.

[Ama_Hamada]

The problem with HQ is that the game may not give you them. I took a look at the 3.0 Story quest and I only saw two times they gave weapons, 54 and 58. I am going to assume they were HQ (because honestly, it has been way too long) which means you will replace it at level 58 if your dungeon weapon doesn't drop (because let's face it, HQ crafted weapons are probably going to be overpriced on the market board), and as nice as materia is, they don't really match the weight of weapon damage (maybe a grade V in a primary stat).

Also I never said the relic had no sub stats. I don't think I said anything that should even imply that. I also never said color mattered, I said the actual stats mattered.

ilvl isn't necessary everything, and if we look at Heavensward, we can probably predict a bit on how long the weapons can last.

I'll be using Dragoon for my example:

Relic
Longinus Zeta: i135

Whites
Titanium Folk: i139

Adamantrite Trident: i150

The Relic weapon greatly outclasses the white gear in weapon damage, and I believe the additional stats do not make up for the weapon damage difference (I don't remember the exact weights).

Now get what I said what I said? It does not, HQ IS STANDARD when it comes to this game, does not matter how it is priced. When you said "additional stats do not make up for the weapon damage difference " it sounded like you where implying relic had no sub stats because it did not make up difference, even though you can make sub stat optimal. Even if you did not mean this, I am trying to explain why it is confusing and why it was wrong to say relic was better then i139, implying relic have special heavier stats when they don't, its just NQs are gimp for their ilevel, and color border doesn't matter, just true ilevel.

NQ are gimp stats and not the true ilevel. That is why you can meld prime stat boosts in them. I commented on what you where implying, gave the wrong messages. How hard or how much a HQ cost does not change the fact HQ is the standard requirement and NQ is below the true ilevel stats.






HQ= dungeon drops (true requirement) / NQ > gimp stats and lets you meld primes to make up for it
235 > 250 NQ, 9 D is a lot

[TristanBlane]

its not too bad and the glamours nice, and it could help for the next relic step so why not. Just take your time with it