Anima Weapon...should I bother?

[ManuelBravo]

NOW ya.. but in general how so? You can get them in about 1 month off dailies you do anyway to cap script etc? as an alt all I did was dailies (expert/pvp) and ended up with 2 and in fact last 3 weeks or so I haven't done any.

I take it it's on an alternate character?Besides thelv 2 in Ragnarok, being you only have one lvl 60 on your Balmung. I'm on my 5th, can check my profile for achievements, and the only real hard time is the grinding lights. I'm going for all achievements just killing time and while I'm at it master all jobs. Besides having control over stats it's always a plus in my book. Also Relics, can be completed in less than a month now being too many people complaining how hard it is and SE gave in to people who are too sensitive to grind. Above all having to grind a job builds up your experience in it.

[Ama_Hamada]

What are you talking about? Sands are easy to get and their are plenty of ways of doing it, from FC , crafting, amber ect. Your just nitpicking now. But hey to each their own. The point is people are too picky on what they are trying to accomplish by doing relics. Relics aren't for everyoneand I would give you props on SUM relic, SCH well not a big fan. People make getting sand hard, it's always been easy. Umbrite has been nerfed and to be honest a bit disappointment that people still complain it's too hard. If people complain about relic weps they shouldn't be doing them. Even after soooo many adjustments people still want it to be easier... As for my reference to FFXI relics it's a contrast of what a true grind is. Relics aren't for everyone and people need to understand that it's not meant to be easy, it's not meant to be nerfed ( yet enough whining SE has listened ). They are meant to be time consuming. To say I have alternates it's a nice thing, I only have an alternate out of boredom. Why not try to actually max out your main and put your theory to the test? Oh wait God forbid you need to raise the actual jobs so of course that would involve work for some people which are probably waiting for jump potions. So just out of curiosity what is the name of your main? Curious to see it's stat and that may give you some credit ability on your statements.

What in the world O_o

Relics aren't for everyone and if you really have to ask it just means they aren't really meant for you. No offense, they aren't for everyone, it's an exclusive type of membership :P

I'll make this very simple then. In FFXIV .. 3.5? + ? relics became obtainable by anyone. All you have to do is dailies and a few weekly quests for a month and you get the relic. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I am even proof of this by having 2 relics on this alt account.




This is not FFXI, they are meant to be obtainable by anyone, an option for non raiders, SE said this themselves.

[ManuelBravo]

What in the world O_o


I'll make this very simple then. In FFXIV .. 3.5? + ? relics became obtainable by anyone. All you have to do is dailies and a few weekly quests for a month and you get the relic. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I am even proof of this by having 2 relics on this alt account.

So still no go on main huh? Well enough said.

[magnanimousCynic]

So still no go on main huh? Well enough said.

If someone has Relics/Animas on an Alt they probably have a few on their main account...

EDIT: I just looked at Ama's main for achievements, which is Aya Hamada, since they use both for the forums, and they have the achievements for i275 DRG Anima along with i260 WAR Anima. That means Ama/Aya has 3 complete animas with one at i260.

Still don't see your point of "No Anima on your main? I don't have a counterargument so I'll pretend I made my point." Just because someone doesn't have an Anima on their main character doesn't invalidate their point in the slightest. And if it does then please explain to me how.

[Ama_Hamada]

If someone has Relics/Animas on an Alt they probably have a few on their main account...

EDIT: I just looked at Ama's main for achievements, which is Aya Hamada, since they use both for the forums, and they have the achievements for i275DRG Anima along with i260 WAR Anima. That means Ama/Aya has 3 complete animas with one at i260.

Still don't see your point of "No Anima on your main? I don't have a counterargument so I'll pretend I made my point." Just because someone doesn't have an Anima on their main character doesn't invalidate their point in the slightest. And if it does then please explain to me how.

Obvious with the names and I did not want to waste a post replying to them only so I waited. Anyways I did not even know what he was asking to begin with, in why he was asking for my main... This is not FFXI, that concept was true for ffxi when you had like 150 people across all servers with them.

Do I need to collect 13 relics to show hey anyone can do relics by simply doing dailies then be accused I am saying sands are too hard?? i do not even know what to make of that post, hence why I said "what in the world" ? I was HOPING simplifying my post would get my point across hoping it was just a misunderstanding but.. I doono what else to say at this point, other then assuming he is salty relics vastly changed concept of purpose going from FFXI to FFXIV.

Also add on the fact 2.0 > 3.0, 3.0 is really casual in comparison, 2.0 ones.. the rng is unreal.. and making you do fates where some fates you need be there camping them because they fail in 5 seconds -.-

[ManuelBravo]

Still don't see your point of "No Anima on your main? I don't have a counterargument so I'll pretend I made my point." Just because someone doesn't have an Anima on their main character doesn't invalidate their point in the slightest. And if it does then please explain to me how.

Unless they allow achievements to be viewed I can't see that. Not to question your integrity, however by them not mentioning that they have it as hidden for competitive reasons, or even suggesting that brings doubt after so many hints. SO unless your their friend and have access I really don't buy it on their end. Glad your looking out for them yet their is a difference in, he said she said. Example my profile can be viewed by anyone. I back up what I say and talk based on experience. I can understand if people are competitive and want to hide their achievements, ( to each their own ) However I trust a person on a logical level not a fictional one.

Now for your point about Main and Alternate...Everyone plays on different servers for a reason, friends, financial difficulties, ect. I would think most people would use their main in forums ( common sense varies based on perspective ) To give advice / express opinions, I would think they would at a minimum have credibility for us logical types that doubt and are willing to debate their experiences. It's not to attack anyone, it's to proof a point that there are people out there who have posted actual experience models and some that can't back it up.

If it's a matter of using alternates for posting restrictions, how is a person suppose to know? If they can't edit one response or minimum include that they are only adding more doubt.

[ManuelBravo]

What in the world O_o


I'll make this very simple then. In FFXIV .. 3.5? + ? relics became obtainable by anyone. All you have to do is dailies and a few weekly quests for a month and you get the relic. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I am even proof of this by having 2 relics on this alt account.


This is not FFXI, they are meant to be obtainable by anyone, an option for non raiders, SE said this themselves.

Would have been easier just to allow access to your achievements public view. Relics are an alternative to raids yes SE did say that and I'm not arguing that. My point is that Relics aren't for any one who doesn't have the patience nor drive to do the grind. Why should people bother if it's so time consuming? The answer is simple, to stop saying that they are unable to get decent weps. What happens when people complain about relics being to hard? they gave diadem and still people complain. That is my point. When people can't put time and effort they make up excuses and still want it done easy. A month may be too much for some. Old content perhaps, newer even by tooth and nail I give it min 2 months tops 5 months with out a crafting jobs. A month if you have alot time is possible. Just not with daily alone.

[Ama_Hamada]

I am the alt.... I do not have access to level 50 roulette, lol... filler msq if you need more sands.

I am 60 SCH i267, and i270 SCH.. what ya talking about only one level 60? and all my crafting and gathering?>.>

idk what "thelv 2 in Ragnarok" means.

This is all off point though, (doesn't really matter if you are on 5th) I said it can be everyone , just about a month to 2 months of dailies, no grinding but lights, so anyone can do it. much different then 2.0 relics where your statement is true.

editing cuz of cap

My mistake a sch and a sum in a single grind to get to 60, unless you have 2 characters with sch only?I meant lvl 60 in terms of DoW and DoM. Lvl 2 is the alternate character I found for you in Ragnarok server. As for everyone doubt it. Most people are too spoil, want it handed to them, and make up excuses. So which Character is your main if you don't mind me asking.? Also I work 2 jobs and go to school so for you to say it's done daily I doubt you actually know what a grind is. Unless you had relics in FFXI, Zodiac weps are ok for glamor and a good time killer as well. Can skip the cristay farming for Anima storyline as well or just use that as a way to get to 60 without investing into gear and such with old content. Alternative for frugal individuals or who don't craft.

All off the point. I said Anyone can get HW relics, it is just about a month of dailies, I was able get 2 relics off dailies only, as an alt. I do not know what you are trying to get across to me. Me saying HW relics can have been goten by anyone since you can do them off dailies only, has nothing to do with FFXI relics. If you started say 3 months ago buying umbrite with lore, doing weekly and daily quests when needed ( 1 hr a day for dailies, increase to 3 hours for one day or 2 hours spread on meany days if weekly + dailies) you would have got it.

To have this hold true while doing that ^ for sands too at little cost without crafting or gathering, you do the amber levels, the squads and someone that has 1 60 crafting can easily casually get the crafting weekly done.
(repeating myself so just editing post)

[ManuelBravo]

I am the alt.... I do not have access to level 50 roulette, lol... filler msq if you need more sands.

I am 60 SCH i267, and i270 SCH.. what ya talking about only one level 60? and all my crafting and gathering?>.>

idk what "thelv 2 in Ragnarok" means.

This is all off point though, (doesn't really matter if you are on 5th) I said it can be everyone , just about a month to 2 months of dailies, no grinding but lights, so anyone can do it. much different then 2.0 relics where your statement is true.

My mistake a sch and a sum in a single grind to get to 60, unless you have 2 characters with sch only?I meant lvl 60 in terms of DoW and DoM. Lvl 2 is the alternate character I found for you in Ragnarok server. As for everyone doubt it. Most people are too spoil, want it handed to them, and make up excuses. So which Character is your main if you don't mind me asking.? Also I work 2 jobs and go to school so for you to say it's done daily I doubt you actually know what a grind is. Unless you had relics in FFXI, Zodiac weps are ok for glamor and a good time killer as well. Can skip the cristay farming for Anima storyline as well or just use that as a way to get to 60 without investing into gear and such with old content. Alternative for frugal individuals or who don't craft.

[ManuelBravo]

All off the point. I said Anyone can get HW relics, it is just about a month of dailies, I was able get 2 relics off dailies only, as an alt. I do not know what you are trying to get across to me. Me saying HW relics can have been goten by anyone since you can do them off dailies only, has nothing to do with FFXI relics. If you started say 3 months ago buying umbrite with lore, doing weekly and daily quests when needed ( 1 hr a day for dailies, increase to 3 hours for one day or 2 hours spread on meany days if weekly + dailies) you would have got it.

To have this hold true while doing that ^ for sands too at little cost without crafting or gathering, you do the amber levels, the squads and someone that has 1 60 crafting can easily casually get the crafting weekly done.
(repeating myself so just editing post)

Sands are easy to get and their are plenty of ways of doing it, from FC , crafting, amber ect. Your just nitpicking now. But hey to each their own. The point is people are too picky on what they are trying to accomplish by doing relics. Relics aren't for everyone and I would give you props on SUM relic, SCH well not a big fan. People make getting sand hard, it's always been easy. Umbrite has been nerfed and to be honest a bit disappointment that people still complain it's too hard. If people complain about relic weps they shouldn't be doing them. Even after soooo many adjustments people still want it to be easier... As for my reference to FFXI relics it's a contrast of what a true grind is. Relics aren't for everyone and people need to understand that it's not meant to be easy, it's not meant to be nerfed ( yet enough whining SE has listened ). They are meant to be time consuming. To say I have alternates it's a nice thing, I only have an alternate out of boredom. Why not try to actually max out your main and put your theory to the test? Oh wait God forbid you need to raise the actual jobs so of course that would involve work for some people which are probably waiting for jump potions. So just out of curiosity what is the name of your main? Curious to see it's stat and that may give you some credibility on your statements.