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    Do u think the first primal will be as easy as Garuda or Bismark if so will be upset

    Figured Id try and change the topic from my poor whm to something that can be discussed. So just from the about a year Ive been playing, I have notice that SE seems to stick with their trends. So Im curious on everyone's thoughts , do you think the first primal will be a push over like the first one of Arr and the First one of hw. I hear alot of people complain about how easy they perceive the game to be so Im curious to know that if the first primal was super easy would this effect how you felt about the expansion?

    I personally feel like the first two will be easy myself just to kinda break new players into the game sense they may have not had any primal experience prior to Sb. Just wana know everyones thoughts and if this would be a game breaker for anyone if the first few extremes where super easy.
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    Easy for statics or easy for PUG's? I've seen some repeated wipes to the HW Primals because PUG's cba to deal with mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Easy for statics or easy for PUG's? I've seen some repeated wipes to the HW Primals because PUG's cba to deal with mechanics.
    Hah I mean of course , but just even by nature bismark was clearly easier than all the other primals, and so was garuda just their mechanics alone where just kinda super straight forward. The others can be argued based on perception but I mean bismark is pretty much adds and a tank swap and thats it, didnt even really have phases or anything. Bismark extreme could basicly be a dungeon boss. So I know SE said that the dungeons where not gona get an amp up in difficulty so Im curious as to if they will keep the trend going in the extreme primals at least the first one or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Hah I mean of course , but just even by nature bismark was clearly easier than all the other primals, and so was garuda just their mechanics alone where just kinda super straight forward. The others can be argued based on perception but I mean bismark is pretty much adds and a tank swap and thats it, didnt even really have phases or anything. Bismark extreme could basicly be a dungeon boss. So I know SE said that the dungeons where not gona get an amp up in difficulty so Im curious as to if they will keep the trend going in the extreme primals at least the first one or two.
    well bismarck x did have weather phases, which if you werent paying attention, could mess up a party pretty good and still unfortunately does same with the dps/tank swap. easy is depending on the group you have. but usually yes, first primal fights are generally less intensive than later fights. but anything does get easier with practice, so i wouldnt read too much into it.
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    first ones are hard/normal even then once in a while in roulette get them and the group wipes so mostly on how well people do and with the leveling potion gonna get a lot of people who are new players who just jump to it and still getting the hang of the class so gonna say gonna be harder this time around in SB then was in ARR or HW as you had so many level to learn your job to Garuda and so many to learn the few new skill by Bismarck now going to be buy this and jump to here and less time to learn what your doing
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    Bismarck wasn't as easy at the very start of Heavensward. The mechanics are indeed very straight forward but there were some pretty tight DPS checks baked into the fight that the average PUG group couldn't pull off. Now those DPS checks are nothing because of Echo and Gear which makes it seem so simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    Now those DPS checks are nothing because of Echo and Gear which makes it seem so simple.
    And people still sometimes fail...
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    You talking Ex? Or storyline trials? Because Garuda storyline was a menace for early players, and even later on remained enough of a problem that players would drop from instance if they got her in Leveling Roulette. Up until SE nerfed the crap out of her, anyway. For a long time, though, it was much easier to beat Garuda Hard than Garuda Normal...

    If talking Ex, then yeah, the first primal will likely be easier than later primals. That's pretty much to be expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    You talking Ex? Or storyline trials? Because Garuda storyline was a menace for early players, and even later on remained enough of a problem that players would drop from instance if they got her in Leveling Roulette. Up until SE nerfed the crap out of her, anyway. For a long time, though, it was much easier to beat Garuda Hard than Garuda Normal...

    If talking Ex, then yeah, the first primal will likely be easier than later primals. That's pretty much to be expected.
    yea the extreme version ha , Im just curious as alot of people say they hate how content is so easy and all of that etc, so I wonder if the first one or two are super easy will it make people feel discouraged about the expansion
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    I dont remember Bismarck extreme being easy when it first came out.
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