Summoner and the upcoming changes

[Sunako]

Question for the level 70 summoners out the about Bahamut. If you have Garuda out and use Place to place her at location and then summon Bahamut, does he end up where Garuda was and atay there or summons where you are and follow you around still?

Garuda return same place where it was before you summon your bahamut.

[Dyvid]

Question for the level 70 summoners out the about Bahamut. If you have Garuda out and use Place to place her at location and then summon Bahamut, does he end up where Garuda was and atay there or summons where you are and follow you around still?

Just double checked this for you. When you cast Bahamut, your pet is de-summoned and Demi-B comes to your side for the duration.

[ShaolinMike]

Just double checked this for you. When you cast Bahamut, your pet is de-summoned and Demi-B comes to your side for the duration.

I haven't tested this myself, but it looks like placing your pet somewhere (away from where you are) and summoning Bahamut is a bad idea, because he will immediately travel to you like a lost puppy, thus missing out on any Wyrmweaves he would have been doing while you were casting stuff.

[Rykun]

I haven't tested this myself, but it looks like placing your pet somewhere (away from where you are) and summoning Bahamut is a bad idea, because he will immediately travel to you like a lost puppy, thus missing out on any Wyrmweaves he would have been doing while you were casting stuff.

Bahamut's summon position depends on where you are, not Garuda. Furthermore wyrmwave is based off the amount of actions you do during the window he's up. If he's following you around it means you're not doing any actions to cause him to cast it.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

Well I typed up a long response but then I pressed the wrong button and lost my whole post lol.

So the TLDR version is: Summoner is no longer about getting in potency during dreadwyrm, that is now your number 2 concern. Number 1 concern is getting out bahamut, and using as many GCDs as possible while he is there. That means you want to use up your aetherstacks as fast as possible to maximize bahamut up time. So yes, canceling dreadwyrm early with deathflare is optimal, so long as you have aetherflow available. Because you can't use aetherflow during dreadwyrm anymore, being in dreadwyrm and spamming ruin III is a dps loss compared to leaving dreadwyrm and using those aetherstacks immediately. Keep aetherflow on cooldown at all times is the name of the game. And Never ever ever ever ever ever wait to summon bahamut, that's tantamount to forgetting to press deathflare in 3.0. It's very bad, don't do it.

Also just have to lol at anyone who says smn is nerfed or not strong anymore. If you think this pls learn2play.

[Brinzy]

So the TLDR version is: Summoner is no longer about getting in potency during dreadwyrm, that is now your number 2 concern. Number 1 concern is getting out bahamut, and using as many GCDs as possible while he is there.

Did your original post have numbers to back that up? Asking because I haven't seen numbers myself.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but are you saying that we end DWT early to use Aetherflow? It seems like you might as well take advantage of the potency stacking when you have access to Contagion and are locked out of Fester/Painflare anyway. I'm using Bahamut as soon as I get him already, and the only way for me to get him any faster is to end DWT early so I can Aetherflow earlier.

Also, if you have Aetherflow available when you end the second DWT, that gives you more oGCDs for Bahamut, right? So would it be more damage to line up Bahamut with Aetherflow, or am I mistaken?

Thanks for any help/info.

[Rykun]

Also, if you have Aetherflow available when you end the second DWT, that gives you more oGCDs for Bahamut, right? So would it be more damage to line up Bahamut with Aetherflow, or am I mistaken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfyq...ature=youtu.be

Yeah you want aetherflow up during Bahamut for sure, his damage goes from like 325-375 to like 480-525 due to the extra wyrmwaves. Supposedly Addle adds another wyrmwave as well, though i'm not sure how practical this is. however some have noted there's a short gcd on wyrmwave so you can't roll your face across all your aetherstacks quickly. In this video I don't immediately deathflare my first DWT but getting bahamut out faster and getting aetherflow on c/d sooner might lead to more dps on a longer fight, though for a 2:30-3:00 parse, it seems like its a loss in DPS, the attempt prior to this one in the video was testing that theory. Also contagion falls off when you summon bahamut

[Brinzy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfyq...ature=youtu.be

Yeah you want aetherflow up during Bahamut for sure, his damage goes from like 325-375 to like 480-525 due to the extra wyrmwaves. Supposedly Addle adds another wyrmwave as well, though i'm not sure how practical this is. however some have noted there's a short gcd on wyrmwave so you can't roll your face across all your aetherstacks quickly. In this video I don't immediately deathflare my first DWT but getting bahamut out faster and getting aetherflow on c/d sooner might lead to more dps on a longer fight, though for a 2:30-3:00 parse, it seems like its a loss in DPS, the attempt prior to this one in the video was testing that theory. Also contagion falls off when you summon bahamut

Great, loads of info here. Didn't notice the Contagion thing because I've only run one single dungeon with Bahamut and wasn't paying close attention. Thanks!

[Draxxion]

Just double checked this for you. When you cast Bahamut, your pet is de-summoned and Demi-B comes to your side for the duration.

That was my concern. If we could set it up like a turret of sorts it wouldn't be so bad because he has a 100 yalm range, but seeing as he still follows you around I can see where he can visually be difficult to work with to see some mechanics while he is out.

[Dyvid]

That was my concern. If we could set it up like a turret of sorts it wouldn't be so bad because he has a 100 yalm range, but seeing as he still follows you around I can see where he can visually be difficult to work with to see some mechanics while he is out.

Best advice is to stay at range and not crowd up on the boss if you can when he's out.