Summoner and the upcoming changes

[Kaurie]

Everyone focuses on one class or one role with this expansion... when you look at everything as a whole its pretty clear they want to break up the current meta... tanks are more tank focused, healers are more heal focused and dps are losing damage buffs and aoe potency.... no more grabbing a whole dungeon and just popping some self heals while everyone aoe Dps the mobs to ash.... which I'm fine with...

BLM AoE got buffed to all hell - also so did NIN's, no?

SMN also got massive ST nerfs by all appearances. That said, I am reserving judgement untl release to see how it all pans out. I do trust the devs ability to balance, but I have my concerns after seeing casters and healers (SMN/WHM) previews.

[Chiraisu]

BLM AoE got buffed to all hell - also so did NIN's, no?

SMN also got massive ST nerfs by all appearances. That said, I am reserving judgement untl release to see how it all pans out. I do trust the devs ability to balance, but I have my concerns after seeing casters and healers (SMN/WHM) previews.

Ninja's was only slightly. Death Blossom and Katon are the same they've been. Poison now effects katon, so there's that. And they added in the frog summon. Which, requires 80 ninki and that takes a while to get.

[RyanRebs]

I have yet to be disappointed with the changes. I think it will be just fine. Afterall we didnt get whitemaged. I imagine our Bio and Bio2 potency are now combined to a instant cast more powerful one so. Stay positive. remember bahamut clones our skills we use with Autos. . Do i here Astro casting speed cards coming while Bahamut is up for tons of DPS?

[Deceptus]

Everyone focuses on one class or one role with this expansion... when you look at everything as a whole its pretty clear they want to break up the current meta... tanks are more tank focused, healers are more heal focused and dps are losing damage buffs and aoe potency.... no more grabbing a whole dungeon and just popping some self heals while everyone aoe Dps the mobs to ash.... which I'm fine with...

So basically they're trying to make everything take longer to do and draw out the expansion. Got it.

[Mnemosynia]

So basically they're trying to make everything take longer to do and draw out the expansion. Got it.

Don't worry ill pull the entire dungeon anyways, i got this shield i didn't ask for so may aswell use it. On subject SMN seems fine i think the added pet dps made up for the dot loses in a real fight remember you have you cast times and movement pets are always attacking so there dps uptime is greater then yours etc etc.

[ShaolinMike]

Death Blossom potency got buffed to 120, I thought.

[AristocraticCorgi]

There is a huge non-controversy right now regarding bane. Some people say that the English-translated tooltip is wrong when compared to the Japanese one. In other words: bane may have not been nerfed after all, according to some accounts.

The best thing we can do, honestly, is to wait and see.

[Eloah]

I personally dont know what SE was thinking with the whole SCH/SMN changes, they seem to be moving towards a more pet focused game desifn, which is semi-nice, but at the cost of the identities they wanted to create. Sch shields are nothing now, and the devs said they didnt want all of the damage from the pet. Smn had low MP for that reason, will we get a boost now? My 2 favorite jobs feel ruinja'd, lol, now. There is also WHM, im not a main WHM but they got shafted so hard.

[Kaurie]

I personally dont know what SE was thinking with the whole SCH/SMN changes, they seem to be moving towards a more pet focused game desifn, which is semi-nice, but at the cost of the identities they wanted to create. Sch shields are nothing now, and the devs said they didnt want all of the damage from the pet. Smn had low MP for that reason, will we get a boost now? My 2 favorite jobs feel ruinja'd, lol, now. There is also WHM, im not a main WHM but they got shafted so hard.

This would be awesome, if there was anything that involved with more pet focused gameplay. Currently, I'm seeing nothing that will make me interact with my pet more for SMN, and only the tether with SCH. In fact, it looks like we remove our pet and have a Bahamut that we can't control appear for brief periods of time, and we lose our pet buff (Spur), so it seems like our interaction with pets is lessened.

If they massively nerfed SMN selfish DPS and added more pet focused stuff, that'd be great. Where are you seeing an increase in pet focused game design?

[Leigaon]

Just curious, there's a lot of floating tid-bits around, though some people have done a tremendous job at trying to get things in one spot. I was wondering do we know more about the actual pet actions?

I found the Shining Emerald to increase targets magic damage taken by 10%

Radiant Shield gives the counter and puts on a 2% increased physical damage debuff on the mob.

Is there anything about Titan? Or changes made to the others egi's?

I ask because Shockwave for example was renamed but Garuda had a knockback to it, which was annoying for trash. I was hoping that would be removed.

Ifrit Crimson Howl would seem to cast an aoe around the pet, much like blizzard II, problem is Ifrit is always facing a pack and I always hoped it would change to damage around the mob.

I did notice in Radiant Shield there's an Obey line but not on Shining Emerald. Maybe this is slight paranoia but I wouldn't want Shining Emerald to go off at any given moment. Though no reason not to it's an increase to magic damage.

I've seen a few imgur page with tooltips but it liked to be incomplete.

Thank you, I'll mark that as paranoia on my part. I would like to see what McNugget gets. I saw the names changed for titans moves too. I'm sure he will stay a tank, would be nice if maybe he got an auto-regen at a level so during minor things where I like to have him tank (I mean things that mean nothing..a fate for example this is by far game breaking to me) he has something to give him back some HP.