Summoner and the upcoming changes

[Brinzy]

I guess I can't complain too much, because I just want the class to be fun, but I won't know if it'll be fun. I'm sure we'll be fine numbers-wise, either immediately or HW style where we get buffed for multiple patches. However, I'm much more concerned with the class feeling smooth and not being terribly boring. Of course, what's fun is subjective, but things like Aetherflow being a bit clunky with Aethertrail, this awful damage boosting utility we have, and a few other things makes me feel a bit nervous for the class feeling like it has proper flow.

I'll get max level and practice my opener/rotation until I get it down perfectly, just like this time around... and then I'll pass judgment. I'll hang on until then and be as positive as I can reasonably be.

[CecMiller]

Snip.

This is my main concern too. Although I do have some salt over the AOE changes. They nerfed deathflare man. DEATHFLARE D: You can take my bane, my shadowflare, my blizzard 2 but don't you dare touch my baby D:

To be fair the ability was OP as a summoner main. The 400 potency with no reduction was insane. But god damn, it was so satisfying. It's still there, but it'd not the same yo.

I've played summoner a lot in creator savage and I can't help but feel like the class will feel incredibly boring to play with the changes just by knowing the "feel" of the class from those fights.

[Shadowzanon]

Summoners can have 3 dots up in SB by taking the break spell from the new class abilities. since we spam ruin 1, being able to cast break is not a problem, putting our dot dps to the same it is in HW. Yes i know the other casters can take the same spell, but seeing how tight their rotations are, they are unlikely to take it. the healers might be taking break since they dont have a real dps rotation if they wanna add more dots.

[ThirdKeyOfSun]

Summoners can have 3 dots up in SB by taking the break spell from the new class abilities

Did they alter Break to have damage over time? Last I saw it was one time damage with a heavy debuff? It would say "damage over time" or "additional effect damage over time" if that were the case. Sorry, I am out of the loop on this one D:

[Shadowzanon]

Did they alter Break to have damage over time? Last I saw it was one time damage with a heavy debuff? It would say "damage over time" or "additional effect damage over time" if that were the case. Sorry, I am out of the loop on this one D:

I may have confused myself. i cannot find the recent mtq capture video that showed it but you are probably right and i glanced it.

[Ashua]

Ugh, there is always one of these guys. Well the JPN board are saying the same things so it's not just those annoying "English" ruining your forum experience.

On topic, these could be an option, one i used before Bane in 2.0. It gets harder the more mobs you add but I'll try it out just for the sake of trying.

Id rather be one of those types then scream the sky is falling with knee jerk reactions.

[Tsukaasa]

Well, we can't use aether flow anymore when the 3 stacks have been used up before entering bahamut transe, we have to do it after the transe now :\ otherwise the 3 stack are not earned.
They should have greyed out the icon to prevent player to hit the button and end up losing 3 stacks :s.

I wonder how buffing ruin to 100 potency (and the tri-disaster change) will balance the loss of dps from shadow flare, one less dot and the nerf of ruin 3. (i mean at lvl 60)

[Vare]

This is exactly why sustain removal was unnecessary. My pet takes more damage than I can heal him.

[Fyce]

This is exactly why sustain removal was unnecessary. My pet takes more damage than I can heal him.

You should probably kill the monster instead of casting pointless Physics.
If a monster is able to eat all the HP of Titan and you before you can kill it, then you're doing something really, really wrong.

[Neela]

I would second your answer in general but me f.e was used to overmob fate monsters while fighting them with aoe skills for speed or i was used to solo kill a bossfate with only Titan by my side both scenarios appear way more difficult without pet regen and low physic... people are forced to rethink their tactics whats bad but not unsolvable .__.