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    DWolfwood's Avatar
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    Goblin
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    Warrior Lv 80

    Bring Back Scourge!!!

    Losing Scourge is a major hit to DRK dps, and completely unnecessary. We've lost a 500 potency attack that was free every 30sec, and it's been replaced with an attack that costs 2400MP to turn into a 520 potency move.

    I understand we got buffs to our MP and Darkside's buff is nice, but if you work out the math, we've lost far too much for any of it to be considered a positive net in our DPS as far as potency goes. Scourge comprises over 50% of the loss.

    Anyways, show your support for Scourge!
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 90
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...engeki-etc.%29

    Take your time and read the entire DRK toolkit, scourge is damn pointless. I rather have my new sole survivor excuse me.
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...engeki-etc.%29

    Take your time and read the entire DRK toolkit, scourge is damn pointless. I rather have my new sole survivor excuse me.
    Looks unchanged in this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ktz...ature=youtu.be
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    This is based on a previous build, the famitsu is based in the most recent build of SB.
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    Melania Trump
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    This is based on a previous build, the famitsu is based in the most recent build of SB.
    I've been talking with some people , it's almost confirmed that famitsu Soul survivor is wrong , thats simply how soul survivor already is , that extra things thats looks like trick attack is simple the pvp effect that soul survivor already has in pvp area
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    I've been talking with some people , it's almost confirmed that famitsu Soul survivor is wrong , thats simply how soul survivor already is , that extra things thats looks like trick attack is simple the pvp effect that soul survivor already has in pvp area
    Pvp and pve abilities are completely separate now, there's no reason for the tooltip to clarify pvp effects. There's a similar case with another job, can't think of it at the moment, I'll have to look it up again but they had a similar tooltip that said something only worked in pvp, but when shown at the NA media thing, it functioned with full effect even outside of pvp.
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    Melania Trump
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/13...engeki-etc.%29

    Take your time and read the entire DRK toolkit, scourge is damn pointless. I rather have my new sole survivor excuse me.
    1 more thing.. idk who wrote this article but... i main war and what this guy wrote is almost wrong on everything , example he mentions vengance and raw intuition as unchaged - wrong they dont garants +1 stack/10 gauge anymore.. than he says decimate potency nerfed from 300 pot to 280.. lol decimate is alrdy 280 pot rn ... berserk cd extended from 15 s to 20s... again berserk is already 20 secs xD
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    1 more thing.. idk who wrote this article but... i main war and what this guy wrote is almost wrong on everything , example he mentions vengance and raw intuition as unchaged - wrong they dont garants +1 stack/10 gauge anymore.. than he says decimate potency nerfed from 300 pot to 280.. lol decimate is alrdy 280 pot rn ... berserk cd extended from 15 s to 20s... again berserk is already 20 secs xD
    The decimate thing even I went to check it. Still 280 :v
    As for berserk he meant the base ability without the trait itself, so they are removing the traits and simply incorporating in the skill itself, so the newcomers don't need to wait for the full effect.
    As for Raw Intuition and Vengeance
    Vengeance: No changes to base effects, no impact on beast gauge
    Raw Intuition: No changes to base effect, no impact on beast gauge
    They work the same but they don't add anything to the new mechanics, compared to the previous version where it gave 1 stack of wrath
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    Melania Trump
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    The decimate thing even I went to check it. Still 280 :v
    As for berserk he meant the base ability without the trait itself, so they are removing the traits and simply incorporating in the skill itself, so the newcomers don't need to wait for the full effect.
    As for Raw Intuition and Vengeance
    Vengeance: No changes to base effects, no impact on beast gauge
    Raw Intuition: No changes to base effect, no impact on beast gauge
    They work the same but they don't add anything to the new mechanics, compared to the previous version where it gave 1 stack of wrath
    Another disaster is what he says about butcher's block : combo trigger change maim ---> skull sunder ( What O.O is he drunk ) , combo potency 250 --> 280 and once again butcher is already 280 lol
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Forget scourge what tanks need is Bloodbath. Really annoyed that we lost it for all tanks. All tanks could have really benefited from having bloodbath, especially with all the aoe/burst QoL changes to tanks. Why would dps need it when they shouldn't be getting hit in the first place outside of raid-wide aoes? and even then we have healers who should be keeping them topped up anyways.
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