Alternative solution to glamour log

[Abriael]

Talking about WoW, how come a game old from 2004 can handle that kind of feature but not FFXIV which have been remade in 2013? And they also have full open world (limited to continent) and still they don't encounter so much issue on the data transfer.

Because they are coded differently, being different games, designed to support different platforms. It's pretty amazing that this needs to be explained.

[SokiYagami]

Because they are coded differently, being different games, designed to support different platforms. It's pretty amazing that this needs to be explained.

Adding to it, I believe it took Blizzard quite sometime to setup the glamour system over there as well.

But still, it can be done, and should be done at some point of time in FFXIV as well.

[Naunet]

Adding to it, I believe it took Blizzard quite sometime to setup the glamour system over there as well.

But still, it can be done, and should be done at some point of time in FFXIV as well.

Don't even need to look at WoW. They are not unique, nor are they the first to have a log of appearances. Other MMOs implemented it fairly early on.

[SokiYagami]

Don't even need to look at WoW. They are not unique, nor are they the first to have a log of appearances. Other MMOs implemented it fairly early on.

I still stand firm on my speculations on the 1.0 spaghetti code returning from the grave to hunt the coding team. If it's true then it might be faster to start designing a new system from scratch. The time and resources required though...

[Arutan]

Because they are coded differently, being different games, designed to support different platforms. It's pretty amazing that this needs to be explained.

What I meant is that they keep using the excuse of data transfer and the mount of data it represents. They probably don't use engines older than WoW, so if WoW can do it then they can.

[Abriael]

What I meant is that they keep using the excuse of data transfer and the mount of data it represents. They probably don't use engines older than WoW, so if WoW can do it then they can.

And what I meant is that you have zero evidence to allege that it's an "excuse" or "false" in any shape or form.

Saying " if WoW can do it then they can" is a gross oversimplification completely blind to the reality of developing a complex game like a MMORPG, even more so on multiple platforms and with different features.

[Hamada]

BS excuses, wow does it, runscape does it, a 15 YEAR OLD GAME!! does it. We need to have a different way of storing items.

I am so sick of hearing hackers this hackers that when they allow (still do, still see the same old bots I noticed in 3.2) gather bots to play despite numerous reports from different people.

Remove retainers holding items, remove retainers putting items on the market bard, letretainers be venture only. Give us a REAL item storage so we are not dealing with slow af menus and trying to talk to 8 different places for our items. I am sure that will help this "server load" they just upgraded servers and they still can't handle a glam log? what a joke, double all retainer inv if they can't do anything to remove the bloat. So sick of hearing "we can't do that" DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR INVENTORY ISSUES!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...space-increase

I made a huge thread on different ideas they can take to help us deal with inventory management and menu bloats.

And what I meant is that you have zero evidence to allege that it's an "excuse" or "false" in any shape or form.

Saying " if WoW can do it then they can" is a gross oversimplification completely blind to the reality of developing a complex game like a MMORPG, even more so on multiple platforms and with different features.

Making us have item bloat so we spend more on retainers while giving out excuses.

[Berethos]

BS excuses, wow does it

WoW uses a different game engine. That alone means how they approach implementing it isn't going to be a direct comparison.

By the way, it took 4.5 years after the addition of transmog (added in December 2011) to WoW for their appearance catalog to actually be implemented (added in July 2016), despite it being pretty much a day one request as a response (their original approach was Void Storage as a way of holding on to gear you wanted to use for glamour).

That alone should indicate that it is not a simple thing to add to a game that doesn't already have it, if it took longer than this version of this game has been around for them to add an appearance catalog.

Additionally, the answer isn't "We're not doing it" it's "We have concerns and there will be challenges to it" so all ya'll freakouts need to sit down and chill out.

[Hamada]

WoW uses a different game engine. That alone means how they approach implementing it isn't going to be a direct comparison.
By the way, it took almost five years after the addition of transmog to WoW for their appearance catalog to actually be implemented, despite it being pretty much a day one request as a response (their original approach was Void Storage as a way of holding on to gear you wanted to use for glamour).

That alone should indicate that it is not a simple thing to add to a game that doesn't already have it, if it took longer than this version of this game has been around for them to add an appearance catalog.

Additionally, the answer isn't "We're not doing it" it's "We have concerns and there will be challenges to it" so all ya'll freakouts need to sit down and chill out.

We did not get an inventory fix all of HW, and now we are entering SB with out one. (All they did was keep adding items to fill our retainers with for HW, more and more rare nodes, etc) I have a huge list what they can do to help, they are not trying, they just want to overcharge us for retainers. When asked about it, all they do is joke about adding more retainers for us to pay for.

[Berethos]

We did not get an inventory fix all of HW, and now we are entering SB with out one. (All they did was keep adding items to fill our retainers with for HW, more and more rare nodes, etc) I have a huge list what they can do to help, they are not trying, they just want to overcharge us for retainers. When asked about it, all they do is joke about adding more retainers for us to pay for.

We're talking about glamour logs and I'm specifically talking about how it's both not an easy addition for any game to do and how they (despite the gloom and doom of the OP) did not say they aren't doing it, not your pet thread about retainer space.