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    Rowan Nero
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    The damage to all healers

    I will say I am a whm main, but I'm not all gloom and doom over the whm Lily system. In fact I am very happy for the raw healing power I can put out! I do feel whm needs just a little utility and the system may need adjusted for dynamic cool down usage, but it's always been the powerful healer. What I am honestly upset and betrayed by is the role actions.

    The role actions are a great idea, ten skills to pick from to adjust your play style to better suit what you enjoy and what is needed. But in the healer role actions you have taken several skills that are mandatory for all healers. I'll list my reasons below.
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    Rowan Nero
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Esuna/Leeches/Exalted Detriment

    These skills should absolutely NOT be a Role action skill. All healers should have a dispell in their basic tool kit. No game I have ever seen has required a healer to get their dispell, which is a basic magical healing tool kit ability. Playing a sch below lvl 40 was always a drag since you couldn't dispell, that teaches you to appreciate having leeches at end game. HW eased this pain with the new fairy ability but forcing it as a role action to accommodate SCH is not the way to do it. You switched shield oath to lvl 30, why not make Leeches a sch only lvl 15 ability. Still unlock it at lvl 30 when you get the job itself, but you can have it in all the content a whm had esuna. I do get there are fights where we will have no debuffs we can dispell, but setting it up to where we're forced to pick it when we need it takes away from the utility you tried to give us with the new actions like Rescue.
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    Rowan Nero
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Shroud of Saints/Luminiferous Aether
    This is our mp regen. Outside of Assize this is whm's ONLY MP regen and it can bring you up pretty far. When you have a group not as skilled, or learning, you WILL eat your MP a lot raising or doing extra healing. The other important thing this is would be our threat dump. AST gets a threat reduction built into their sects, but with the buffs to their healing this could be balanced out. The issue for AST is that they do have a card that can restore them, but that's a 1/6 chance they will even see that card especially when they need it. People have cards they prefer to store, I personally prefer either arrow or balance depending on my parties. As far as I have heard, I could be wrong, SCH still has energy drain and aetherflow's mp restoring so they arn't really hurt, they actually get a huge mp buff they didn't need unless they do nothing BUT raise. Without this skill, we rely on our party for mana.
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    Shroud continued

    If you search chat logs you will see there are plenty of times when we pester a bard or mch for mage ballad/bishop turret promotion. They didn't enjoy it most of the time, and ignored us, because it would lower their dps. While it won't actively lower their dps they still have to cast the skill and be standing near us for the initial cast. In pugs, I do not trust another party member to give me a resource i need. Just because you expect us to help each other it doesn't mean we will get the help we need. I actually have a macro with a <se.3> on it to spam for mages ballad and showing my mp. I deleted it off my bar because it took up space and was ignored anyway.
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    Rowan Nero
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Protect
    I honestly know that for ast and sch this was always a cross action skill. But I feel it should be a base line skill for healers. If it's something expected of us to always have then why not just give it to us. From what I have gathered on the other classes for additional actions they are trimming away "must haves" and giving them options. There's no reason for this skill to be additional when it's a requirement. You can argue the same for basic provoke but that's for another topic board. I can not tell you the number of times that I get harassed in synched groups when I heal as a sch or ast (I refuse to low lvl whm or ast in most cases) because my only additional action is cleric stance. There has been once I was kicked from a group over it.
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    Just by making these actions base line again, and in some cases base line for all, that gives us three more spots that we can have new utility spells to help augment our play. These can range from something similar to Aetherial manipulation to give us more mobility to making repose a Additional action. Do not punish us, please do not punish us by making us overly rely on our party to give us our MP. Do Not punish us and make it to where we see these nice new toys that we cannot use. The role action idea at it's base is a GREAT idea! DO Not make it go to waste and let it make all the healer mains want to leave your game. Healers by default are salty enough (lol) please don't give us a extra reason to be so.

    Signed,

    One of your many baby sitters.
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    hear hear...would you like to sit on the Spite Chest to keep it in? a lot of us are...and we're barely keeping it in, as the forums have shown

    you make good points overall
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    You can contain a healer's spite?! That's news to me! Who ever learned how to do that could make millions.
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Summoner Lv 90
    See I don't know that I agree here on some of this. Like esuna. You don't need esuna in every dungeon or on every boss fight. You can switch it out for something else in this situation. This kind of thing I find way more attractive than just having leeches sitting there with no use for that fight.
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    I can understand that point of view as well, Esuna is something I don't trust others to keep more than it's always needed. New contient will always have a "net to catch all" and I can't count the times something causes one healer to not be able to esuna fast enough but the co healer is able to. But I can see Esuna slightly less than the other two posted.
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