4 months of moogle killing!

[Seth_Ahriman]

So is there any sign that we wont be killing moogle for 4 months, and paying for 3 of those 4 months lol.

Edit: Sorry for assuming the patch will come out late, but my assumption is based on the fact that it seems like it is a royal pain to edit or do anything in the current engine of the game, since they cant seem to add simple things like kicking people from ls when they are not on, or fixing the reasons for the game to crash.

Maybe 1.2(a?,b,?c?) will include more of what makes an mmo fun for all types of people to play, but I also feel it is safe to assume this will be after pay to play, what i condiser a point of no return for the game.

I understand the need to get to the more anticipated content with 1.21. Jobs and 2 new instanced dungeons sounds great on it's own. The last letter said that the 10 day delay is not suppose to affect 1.21. Alright, we'll take that being that there is not much else to go on.

You'll only be charged a month before you get that new content really. A month premature? It's quite possible that is true. Honestly, that one month really just comes down to your faith in the game's future.

Seth you cant argue with these people who love XIV, they will just tell you to stop playing, when this infact hurts their precious little game because the more people they tell to stop playing and STFU voicing their opinion, the less this game will suceed as it will have less input, have feedback based on biased white knights and only have the subscription from the people who enjoy paying for nothing.

So just laugh everytime they say "dont pay for it then" because it might as well be the community that turn people away from the game.

But in whole honesty? Yes it is Moogle for the next 3 months +.

The next patch will likely be delayed, just my expectations. It will not take long to get used to the new skills, infact a lot are same, a lot you dont need to worry about anymore (shell) and so on. Its no different than power levelling to 50 then playing n learning that way. Plus ya know thats not content lol.

The quests you'll burn through in a day because I doubt they will be anything special (havent been so far so no reference to be against).

You are paying for a beta or if you prefer, paying a overpriced preorder lol.

Also people have a really hard time staying on topic in these things... There are a few good points though within the pages, ill either throw them here or you can read them.

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[DeadRiser]

Is this another thread about billing? Or are you just beating your own foot into the ground.

Oh it's a content thread, about how there is "nothing" to do in this game.

There is GC ranks, all the side quests, items from the GC, better rewards for all GC related quests, better GC caravans, NEW AND CHANGED skills to try out on all mobs and other fights, new synths, etc...

I mean the list goes on...

[Xeno]

Is this another thread about billing? Or are you just beating your own foot into the ground.

Oh it's a content thread, about how there is "nothing" to do in this game.

There is GC ranks, all the side quests, items from the GC, better rewards for all GC related quests, better GC caravans, NEW AND CHANGED skills to try out on all mobs and other fights, new synths, etc...

I mean the list goes on...

Yea those things will take 4 months to do..

[Dreadnought]

Is this another thread about billing? Or are you just beating your own foot into the ground.

Oh it's a content thread, about how there is "nothing" to do in this game.

There is GC ranks, all the side quests, items from the GC, better rewards for all GC related quests, better GC caravans, NEW AND CHANGED skills to try out on all mobs and other fights, new synths, etc...

I mean the list goes on...

not that i care because i dont, im waiting for 1.21, but non of that is considered to be content in comparison to what other current MMOs have to offer.

Most other games are released with massive PVP competitive content, several dungeons at release, more than one story line to follow (albeit theyre just walls of text, many people like that non the less, go figure right?), and many more zones to explore with different quest chains to progress on if you cant group up for whatever reason
FFXIV lacks every single one of those ( again comparatively to most other MMOs at release)

to OP
if your like me and want nothing more than to obsess over epic battles and epenis gear then id say you might as well log in once in a blue moon out of boredom while waiting for other games to come out. it really is your best bet.

[Seth_Ahriman]

not that i care because i dont, im waiting for 1.21, but non of that is considered to be content in comparison to what other current MMOs have to offer.

Most other games are released with massive PVP competitive content, several dungeons at release, more than one story line to follow (albeit theyre just walls of text, many people like that non the less, go figure right?), and many more zones to explore with different quest chains to progress on if you cant group up for whatever reason
FFXIV lacks every single one of those ( again comparatively to most other MMOs at release)

to OP
if your like me and want nothing more than to obsess over epic battles and epenis gear then id say you might as well log in once in a blue moon out of boredom while waiting for other games to come out. it really is your best bet.

thats probably what will happen soon

[Xatsh]

not that i care because i dont, im waiting for 1.21, but non of that is considered to be content in comparison to what other current MMOs have to offer.

Most other games are released with massive PVP competitive content, several dungeons at release, more than one story line to follow (albeit theyre just walls of text, many people like that non the less, go figure right?), and many more zones to explore with different quest chains to progress on if you cant group up for whatever reason
FFXIV lacks every single one of those ( again comparatively to most other MMOs at release)

to OP
if your like me and want nothing more than to obsess over epic battles and epenis gear then id say you might as well log in once in a blue moon out of boredom while waiting for other games to come out. it really is your best bet.

My question is why are people who want this kind of game playing XIV to begin with. It is not a quest grinder or PvP focused, and that was known at launch. It is very very obvious SE is not making it a quest grinder... the fact they are not adding long quest arcs with high XP and such is proof of that.

People who want western style quest Hube style game should play Rift, WoW, ToR or a game along those lines. I just do not see this game targeting those kind of players anytime soon at all if ever.

But for me atm while this game had 1/10th the quest of say Rift atm..... I can easily log in at night and play XIV for 2-3 hrs longer then I can stomach say Rift or WoW. All due to grouping. Running instances nonstop gets boring, and playing solo is just not fun if over 20-30mins. PvP is ok for short burst but a stupid rogue jumping in circles around you can only amuse one for so long. Being able to log in play with others from level 15 all the way through endgame in almost all aspects of the game is vastly more enjoyable then soloing... this is something that is impossible to really do on any western game and why myself and others are enjoying what is in the game atm even though no will argue it is not enough and alot of it is broken.

Many disagree and like the Solo player rpg feel outside instances and I can respect that but I suggest playing a game designed for your play preference.

My suggestion for those who want a game based on questing is to quit this game not until 1.21 but until 2.0 when the new free trial comes, Then see if you like the new XIV style. Then if you hate it just quit for good because the game is not for you at that point.

But honestly if you hate the game now... looking at the schedule the dev released awhile ago... nothing is going to change it anytime soon.

[viion]

My question is why are people who want this kind of game playing XIV to begin with. It is not a quest grinder or PvP focused, and that was known at launch. It is very very obvious SE is not making it a quest grinder... the fact they are not adding long quest arcs with high XP and such is proof of that.

If they was not interested in Quests then why would they make jobs be only advancable (made that up lol) through quests? You cant learn skills by levelling, only Quests. They put more quests in than they do grinding areas. (Though with mob increase maybe that will change).

Not to mention Yoshi is very into PVP. But I am fairly sure its stated that PVP will be in after v2.

[Babydoll]

not that i care because i dont, im waiting for 1.21, but non of that is considered to be content in comparison to what other current MMOs have to offer.

Most other games are released with massive PVP competitive content, several dungeons at release, more than one story line to follow (albeit theyre just walls of text, many people like that non the less, go figure right?), and many more zones to explore with different quest chains to progress on if you cant group up for whatever reason
FFXIV lacks every single one of those ( again comparatively to most other MMOs at release)

to OP
if your like me and want nothing more than to obsess over epic battles and epenis gear then id say you might as well log in once in a blue moon out of boredom while waiting for other games to come out. it really is your best bet.

Well said. I've played a lot of mmo on release and the amount of stuff to do was overwhelming. This game atm does not have even half of the content which those games had. Nearly all my friends are super bored with xiv . They don't hate the game they say it's nice but just so boring...nothing to do.

Less and less people playing everyday doesn't help either

[Matsume]

Most other games are released with massive PVP competitive content, several dungeons at release, more than one story line to follow (albeit theyre just walls of text, many people like that non the less, go figure right?), and many more zones to explore with different quest chains to progress on if you cant group up for whatever reason
FFXIV lacks every single one of those ( again comparatively to most other MMOs at release)

You are wrong. The fact that SE hasn't charged for the game up until now makes it as if it weren't released; aka extended BETA. So if you count the release date as the date monthly billing starts, then FFXIV is starting with everything you just mentioned minus PvP. Dont complain because you had to shell out 10 bucks on a store bought copy.

You can go play WoW til the game meets your standards.

lol so i take it you good sir are a white knight.

Does anyone else think this is ironic?

[Zanfire]

You are wrong. The fact that SE hasn't charged for the game up until now makes it as if it weren't released; aka extended BETA. So if you count the release date as the date monthly billing starts, then FFXIV is starting with everything you just mentioned minus PvP. Dont complain because you had to shell out 10 bucks on a store bought copy.

You can go play WoW til the game meets your standards.



Does anyone else think this is ironic?

no hes right. No PVP, only 2 dungeons (only one at endgame) a few storylines, but they are quite short, and only made to seem longer because you have to get to a certain level to see one of them. We have only a handful of zones....that are so copy paste and garbage that they are completely re-doing them all at MASSIVE player request. Quest chains are pretty much non-existant.

...seem like hes pretty much right to me.