Questions regarding house moving feature

[Altena]

There have been a number of times this topic has come up in live letters etc however a few fairly important questions remains unanswered as far as I know. These questions are important mostly because we need time to prepare for the move.

How much gil will the move feature cost?
- Will it be the full cost of an entire plot?
- If not, will there be some form of fee?
- - If so, will there be any refund or credit toward our new house, for the original plot that will be relinquished?
- - If there is no or little cost when moving to a house of the same size, how will the upgrade/downgrade move feature work?

Would appreciate a dev response to this, as the cost hasn't come up in any of the discussions about this feature as far as I am aware.

I will politely ask that people refrain from too much venting/personal gribe against this feature. These questions are genuine questions that myself and likely many others would like to know as early as possible to allow us sufficient time to prepare.


*Edit*

Based these questions on a live translation of the last letter, where these comments were actually missed by the fantastic translator (always appreciated).

This is according to the official letter digest:

As for the feature itself, the steps in which the players need to take is pretty simple. When accessing the sign board of the plot to purchase, players will be presented with an option to move, so they will just need to select that option. You will then be required to purchase the land.

[CyrilLucifer]

I think you're expecting way too much if you expect there to be a refund for your current plot using the Move feature.

[Altena]

I think you're expecting way too much if you expect there to be a refund for your current plot using the Move feature.

I will politely ask that people refrain from too much venting/personal gribe against this feature. These questions are genuine questions that myself and likely many others would like to know as early as possible to allow us sufficient time to prepare.

Again, I am asking for answers. Holding no expectations - just want to be prepared.

Leave your personal gripe toward people who have invested in the housing system at the door. This thread isn't a topic about that - it's an attempt to get information on the expansion over and above butt sliders.

All we know so far is that all it will cost the price of the new plot. No refund. But we dont know if it will be for FCs only. I hope not. If its the same size house everything will move as is. If its a bigger house everything goes into "storage" so you dont lose anything.

This was confirmed? Where?
Certainly none of the live letters I watched.

First I have heard of anyone mentioning costs.

As for the "FC only" comment.. I could be wrong but I don't believe that to be the case - as when it was mentioned for FCs, I believe he was speaking in a generalised sense. Also stated that apartments could be moved also - which indicates some degree of private housing to be included. It would be strange to me if they allowed apartments but not private estates to be moved.

[Nezerius]

As for the "FC only" comment.. I could be wrong but I don't believe that to be the case - as when it was mentioned for FCs, I believe he was speaking in a generalised sense. Also stated that apartments could be moved also - which indicates some degree of private housing to be included. It would be strange to me if they allowed apartments but not private estates to be moved.

The live letter digest only mentions "The moving feature will transfer the personal chambers, company chest, company workshop, and airship voyage status, as well as the chocobo stables.", which mostly focus on FC housing things. I wish they'd actually confirm whether it'll be limited to FC housing, or if private housing will be allowed to use this moving feature as well.

[Altena]

The live letter digest only mentions "The moving feature will transfer the personal chambers, company chest, company workshop, and airship voyage status, as well as the chocobo stables.", which mostly focus on FC housing things. I wish they'd actually confirm whether it'll be limited to FC housing, or if private housing will be allowed to use this moving feature as well.

Yeah I further read into this as well after my last post. Apparently I missed a whole tonne of these Q&A's. I guess it wasn't a big focus for the guys translating live at the time :P

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Further on this though...

It seems strange to me that they would charge the full price of a new plot without any form of refund for the move - however if you were to let your house fall down (45 days of inactivity) you get refunded 80% of the price you paid for the plot..

Redeemable from the Resident Caretaker
80% of the price paid for the estate grounds.
Indoor and outdoor furnishings that are not destroyed upon removal.

Source: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...3e7ccabefa9954

[Dustytome]

Further on this though...

It seems strange to me that they would charge the full price of a new plot without any form of refund for the move - however if you were to let your house fall down (45 days of inactivity) you get refunded 80% of the price you paid for the plot..

Consider it a real-time house swap. Currently if you decide on a whim you want a house that's open when you already own one, you have to relinquish the plot immediately (no refund) and then risk losing the new plot in the meantime and being left with no plot in the end (even more of a hassle if it's an fc house). With this it's essentially the same on-a-whim deal but there's the speed of not having to deal with relinquishing the old plot as well as the safety net of still having a house if someone else beats you to the punch.

[worldofneil]

It seems strange to me that they would charge the full price of a new plot without any form of refund for the move - however if you were to let your house fall down (45 days of inactivity) you get refunded 80% of the price you paid for the plot..

The difference is you choosing to demolish your old house or the system doing it without your consent. The 80% of the price paid is compensation if that happens and people are just using that to their advantage to get money back, but that's not what it was designed for which is why you won't get any back on moving either.

[Naunet]

I think you're expecting way too much if you expect there to be a refund for your current plot using the Move feature.

There SHOULD be no cost, as the player is not gaining an additional house but simply switching locations.

SE has proven they have zero interest in designing a player-friendly housing system, though...

[Final-Fantasy]

There SHOULD be no cost, as the player is not gaining an additional house but simply switching locations.

That makes no sense at all...

Sure, I'll just move from the worst and cheapest small plot in The Goblet to the largest and best plot in the new housing area, for no cost.

Each plot has a grade (1 to 5) which determines the price you pay, depending on size and location in the ward, so that would limit your selection I'm sure.

[Naunet]

That makes no sense at all...

If you are swapping 1 to 1, there should be no cost.

(Personally, I advocate for all-access instanced housing, which would make this irrelevant, but for the sake of this thread... Equal house should not incur any additional moving cost.