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    SonKevin's Avatar
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    Fax Machine
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    Pandaemonium
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    Conjurer Lv 4
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirateski View Post
    Obviously, this is my own subjective opinion. Some people love dungeons. Some people prefer potd. But you can't go "SE IS RUINING ALL CONTENT EVER" because you, personally, only love dungeons and don't bother with the rest.
    Your subjective opinion is basically based on the fact that you want to grind without paying attention. That's it. How is that ever a good game mechanic? Not only that, but it promotes bad behavior by making it easier for people to level classes, but not actually learn them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Pomanders which all give effects that we've never had before, accursed hoard, weapon and armor aether, Cairn of Passage/Cairn of Return, monster patrol pathing through the whole dungeon, procedural generation, the save system. Need I go on?
    I think you need to learn what new mechanics are vs what re-purposed mechanics are.
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    Kuroneko_Jutah's Avatar
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    Kuroka Jyuuta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    I think you need to learn what new mechanics are vs what re-purposed mechanics are.
    So how about all those old Coil mechanics that got re-purposed for Heavensward dungeons, eh?
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    Expecting everybody to play the game the way you do is not a way to foster a pleasant experience for anybody.
    Words to live by.

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    Mirateski's Avatar
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    Ar'telan Qin
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    Your subjective opinion is basically based on the fact that you want to grind without paying attention. That's it. How is that ever a good game mechanic? Not only that, but it promotes bad behavior by making it easier for people to level classes, but not actually learn them.
    for some (not all, admittedly) classes, I actually find potd quite useful for getting used to lv60 rotations before I get there. It's near-impossible to maintain enochian and botd in potd due to the low hp, staggered nature of mobs in there, but ninja for example I've been able to get quite used to the vast majority of the lv60 toolkit whilst starting at a piddling lv31.

    People not learning classes because they level in potd are lazy, it's not potd's fault they can't be bothered to read tooltips. dragging out the levelling process just means you'll see that icemage that still switchees between astral and umbral by hardcasting fire1 in the dungeon 3 times over, instead of 1.

    Also, I can't think of a single dungeon mechanic outside of possibly that godawful second boss in stone vigil HM that's been new. They've all previouosly come from raids. Just because they're new to the non-raiding scene doesn't mean they're new from a development perspective.

    edit - in addition, basically all meaningful content is accessed at max level now, outside of the story contained in job quests and maybe lv50 stuff if you want to do it synched. Why WOULDN'T you want to get there as quickly and painlessly as possible?

    edit2: I thought of one! Neverreap has new mechanics in the awful first and second bosses. Find me someone that enjoys neverreap unironically.
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    Last edited by Mirateski; 06-02-2017 at 02:41 AM.