Another SCH complain

[AlexanderThorolund]

It's not that I underestimate it - it's more that I was looking forward to juggling it with high aoe DPS :P Not even the highly awaited targeted healing makes up for a huge DPS loss imo, unless they REALLY upped incoming damage compared to HW and ARR content.

And I think this reflects the re-calculation of damage across the board, healers were becoming too DPS orinetated, bringing them back in line with healer ideology is NOT a negative thing. If you think it is, you need to main a DPS class

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

And I think this reflects the re-calculation of damage across the board, healers were becoming too DPS orinetated, bringing them back in line with healer ideology is NOT a negative thing. If you think it is, you need to main a DPS class

It's funny to me that the class with the highest dps focus is the ones with the tiniest toolkit for it. It's so backwards it almost hurts.

[Cynfael]

And I think this reflects the re-calculation of damage across the board, healers were becoming too DPS orinetated, bringing them back in line with healer ideology is NOT a negative thing. If you think it is, you need to main a DPS class

For this line of thinking to work, you first have to accept the premise that the ability to deal damage in tandem with healing somehow detracts from a "healer ideology." Personally, I don't accept that the two are mutually exclusive.

Second, even if you're still onboard with this idea after passing the first checkpoint, you probably expect useful and dynamic additions to the healing toolkit that both make sense in the larger context of real gameplay and effectively replace actions that would have previously been better spent on adding damage. Thus far, this does not appear to be the case.

[Deceptus]

For this line of thinking to work, you first have to accept the premise that the ability to deal damage in tandem with healing somehow detracts from a "healer ideology." Personally, I don't accept that the two are mutually exclusive.

Second, even if you're still onboard with this idea after passing the first checkpoint, you probably expect useful and dynamic additions to the healing toolkit that both make sense in the larger context of real gameplay and effectively replace actions that would have previously been better spent on adding damage. Thus far, this does not appear to be the case.

Also, Healers have to level up somehow. They can't spend ALL their time in dungeons. Nerfing Healer DPS nerfs the leveling experience and simply slows things down for no reason.

[LegoTechnic]

Also, Healers have to level up somehow. They can't spend ALL their time in dungeons. Nerfing Healer DPS nerfs the leveling experience and simply slows things down for no reason.

To be fair, SCHs are a big old cheat with this since we can just job-change to SMN for leveling and SCH for dungeons.

It sucks for other healers, though.

[Deceptus]

"Some things you don't need to worry about. The new AST AoE heal Earthly Star is a neat move, and it plays well off people who know a fight. " That absolutely plays into the SCH toolkit.

It seems to me the reason for the ShadowFlare change is to get people to actually use Sacred Soil. Because due to the damage and the slow, it's superior in dungeons to SS in almost every way.

[KDSilver]

Sorry for those who like sustain but this skills was undersused because useless.
If the fairy need some healing, she can heal herself or we can heal her and it was far more potent than sustain.

They made a great decision removing this useless thing.

[LegoTechnic]

Sorry for those who like sustain but this skills was undersused because useless.
If the fairy need some healing, she can heal herself or we can heal her and it was far more potent than sustain.

They made a great decision removing this useless thing.

SMN used it considerably though. Their pets are suicidal.

[KDSilver]

SMN used it considerably though. Their pets are suicidal.

My post is For Scholar only of course.

[LegoTechnic]

"Some things you don't need to worry about. The new AST AoE heal Earthly Star is a neat move, and it plays well off people who know a fight. " That absolutely plays into the SCH toolkit.

It seems to me the reason for the ShadowFlare change is to get people to actually use Sacred Soil. Because due to the damage and the slow, it's superior in dungeons to SS in almost every way.

Sacred Soil uses an aetherize stack, and now more than ever that won't happen since we can lustrate and excogitation with those stacks while DPSing without needing to stance dance.

Like Bane, the change to shadowflare is largely a nerf to SMN AoE with their myriad bahamut+painflare options, but since we share the toolkit we get to deal with it, too. For our loss.

Earthly Star is a solid AST design choice since it involves a time delay mechanic. It would certainly work in the SCH's toolkit, but thematically we wouldn't want something that gradually builds like Earthly Star, but rather something that can instantly trigger like our tactics, indomitability, or excogitation. Planned reaction rather than playing a trap card face down and then flipping it in a later round.