Samurai Discussion

[silentwindfr]

you know that all your theory are kinda.... wrong? since we all know the number we have are not the right one... don't look too much into it for find the perfect rotation based on wrong number.

[Greywolfamakir]

you know that all your theory are kinda.... wrong? since we all know the number we have are not the right one... don't look too much into it for find the perfect rotation based on wrong number.

Yeah i know, but you can easily change pontecies on a spreadsheet, if they change Midare Setsugekka potency or Shinten pontecy or Hagakure's amount of kenki per Sen they could change that Hagakure is actually better than Midare Setsugekka + Kaiten.

But with 1 or 2 months away from release i assume that they wont change mechanics or add/remove skills, so think about "openers" or "rotations" is actually good because im just creating a base that will work if they change potencies.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

So in regards to Third Eye it lasts only 3 seconds correct? Now let's say I trigger the effect so I can use one of the two abilities. Do I have a certain amount of time to use those abilities or will they stay "active" until I use one of them?

[yillin]

According to the wording of the skills it looks like as soon as you use Third Eye, you get the buff called Open Eyes. The Open eyes buff itself lasts for 3 seconds and reduces damage from the next hit by 20% as well as allow you to use either Starry Eye or Merciful Eyes since the wording on those abilities is, "While under the effects of Open Eyes..."

[Cynric]

So far this opener was the best I came up with.

Hakaze(5k)>Yukikaze(15k)>Hakaze(20k)>Jinpu(25k)>Iaijutsu(higanbana)>Gekko(35k)+Meikyo Shisui>

Shifu(40k)>Yukikaze(50k)+Hissatsu: Guren(0k)>Kasha(10k)>Hagakure(70k)

>Hakaze(75k)+Hissatsu: Shinten(50k)>Jinpu(55k)+Hissatsu: Shinten(30k)>

Gekko(40k)+Hissatsu: Shinten(15k)>Hakaze(20k)>Shifu(25k)+Hissatsu:

Shinten(0k)>Kasha(10k)>Hakaze(15k)>Yukikaze(25k)+Hissatsu: Kaiten(0k)>Iaijutsu

Not sure how it compares to all the other ones.

[Greywolfamakir]

So in regards to Third Eye it lasts only 3 seconds correct? Now let's say I trigger the effect so I can use one of the two abilities. Do I have a certain amount of time to use those abilities or will they stay "active" until I use one of them?

When you use the skill "Third Eye" you gain a buff called "Third Eye" for 3 seconds.
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If you get hit while "Third Eye" buff is active, this hit will be reduced by 20% and you lose the buff "Third Eye" gaining a new one called "Eyes Open" for 15 seconds:

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While you under the effect of "Eyes Open" you can use "Merciful Eyes", its an instant heal with 500 potency.


or you can use "Starry Eyes" its an attack with 200 potency and 25 Kenki cost [English tooltip from April] // 15 kenki cost [Japanese tooltip more recent].
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Japanese tooltip:


Source, example and details: https://youtu.be/HGyWVo91HBE?t=373

[MiruWest]

So far this opener was the best I came up with.

Hakaze(5k)>Yukikaze(15k)>Hakaze(20k)>Jinpu(25k)>Iaijutsu(higanbana)>Gekko(35k)+Meikyo Shisui>

Shifu(40k)>Yukikaze(50k)+Hissatsu: Guren(0k)>Kasha(10k)>Hagakure(70k)

>Hakaze(75k)+Hissatsu: Shinten(50k)>Jinpu(55k)+Hissatsu: Shinten(30k)>

Gekko(40k)+Hissatsu: Shinten(15k)>Hakaze(20k)>Shifu(25k)+Hissatsu:

Shinten(0k)>Kasha(10k)>Hakaze(15k)>Yukikaze(25k)+Hissatsu: Kaiten(0k)>Iaijutsu

Not sure how it compares to all the other ones.

Dervy came up with a opener that capped out around 280+ pps, should cehck out the Balanced Discord and jump into the SAM discussion. Alot of openers have been debated but so far no one has beaten his and it seems like it will be the standard.

[Pluvia]

Dervy came up with a opener that capped out around 280+ pps, should cehck out the Balanced Discord and jump into the SAM discussion. Alot of openers have been debated but so far no one has beaten his and it seems like it will be the standard.

Could I get a link to that discord?

[Leonus]

Yea, I would appreciate the link as well.

[MiruWest]

https://discord.gg/CjQkEn3