Samurai Discussion

[Greywolfamakir]

I re-calculated efficiency of Hagakure and found out that in the end Hagakure is not worth the 3 Sen you spent on it, contrary to what the post on reddit claimed. When you consume all 3 Sens for 1x Hagakure, you get 720 potency out of it. That equals to 1x Midare Setsugekka. The only benefit of Hagakure is 1 weaponskill because Midare Setsugekka requires 1 GCD while Hagakure doesn't. The one GCD you cast after the combo is Hakaze which equals to 5 Kenki. 5 Kenki equals to 60 potency. So by using Hagakure you only benefit by 60 potency. But this benefit is when you cast Midare Setsugekka alone.

When you buff Midare Setsugekka with Kaiten, you get +360 potency benefit, which is an actual +120 potency benefit over Shinten for that cost. Substracting the earlier +60 potency benefit you got from 1 Hagakure equals +60 potency benefit in favor of Kaiten. In other words, every time you cast Kaiten + Midare you yield 60 more potency than Hagakure.

You are wrong again...You forget that Kaiten costs 20 Kenki.

Long Example:
1 complete rotation potency:
150 * 3 = 450. (Hakaze)
450 + 340 = 790 (Yukikaze)
790 + 280 = 1070 (Jumpu)
1070 + 400 = 1470 (Gekko)
1470 + 280 = 1750 (Shifu)
1750 + 400 = 2150 (Kasha)
8 GCDs = 2150 potency + 55 Kenki.

Now we have 2 options:

Hagakure
With Hagakure we will have 115 kenki (Max Kenki is 100, i know, but its no relevant here) with 8 GCDs, then.
Shinten kenki Ratio = 12 (300 / 25 = 12)
115 kenki * 12 = 1380 potency from kenki. Total Potency = 1260 + 2150 = 3530 Potency with 8 GCDs.
3530 / 8 = 441.25 Potency per GCD

Midare Setsugekka + Kaiten
With Midare Setsugekka + Kaiten we will have 35 kenki (35 - 20)
Shinten Kenki Ratio = 12 (300 / 25 = 12)
35 Kenki * 12 = 420 potency from kenki
Midare Setsugekka + Kenki = 1080 potency. Total Potency = 1080 + 420 + 2150 = 3650 potency with 9 GCDs.
3650 / 9 = 405.55 Potency per GCD
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tl;dr:Hagakure is better than Midare Setsugekka in terms of potency.