Samurai Discussion

[Sai-Kon]

Theoretically, you would get a benefit from Hagakure in 8x uses of it, which would grant 3 Sen. 8x Hagakure translates to approximately 5 minutes and 20 seconds of non-stop fight. But there is no such fight with non-stop DPS, there is always downtime for mechanics and downtime is a value loss for Hagakure.

Also when you convert the 3 Sen with Hagakure, it takes some time till you spend all the Kenki on Shintens, and in the opener it is a DPS loss because the earliest you can cast Hagakure is at 16.87 seconds after pull (assuming you start with 3-part combo, Higanbana, then Meikyo Shisui to get 3 Sen, then Hagakure) and the 16th second is when cooldowns like Trick Attack end, or for Battle Litany it has 3-4 seconds left till it falls off. Probably this is why Daioh tried to double weave 2x Shinten so that they get buffed by Battle Litany but that is very risky because ping and server lag are apparent in FFXIV and you might end up delaying your next weaponskill by a second or more.