Samurai Discussion

[ShaolinMike]

Ageha is SAM's Assasinate, so it's not part of a rotation.

[SpookyGhost]

Ageha is SAM's Assasinate, so it's not part of a rotation.

Doesn't sound like an assassinate on this, just sounds like you can use it whenever and if you land a killing blow with it you get extra gauge. Might be a mistranslation, though.

[mosaicex]

Doesn't sound like an assassinate on this, just sounds like you can use it whenever and if you land a killing blow with it you get extra gauge. Might be a mistranslation, though.

発動条件：対象のＨＰが２０％以下
Or you can go check any demo video that show off this skill.

[SpookyGhost]

発動条件：対象のＨＰが２０％以下
Or you can go check any demo video that show off this skill.

Can't read Japanese but I'm assuming this translates to something like "can only be executed @ <20% HP", in which case fair enough.

[Cynric]

Can't read Japanese but I'm assuming this translates to something like "can only be executed @ >20% HP", in which case fair enough.

Incorrect, The skill can be used at anytime, however the extra Kenki gain only happens during the execute window if you get the kill.

It basically looks like its like, This attack does 250 potency.

Bonus 1 : 10 kenki

Bonus 2 (Only happens at 20%or below and only if you get the kill) 20 Kenki ( Maybe 20+10 if kill ; otherwise just 10)


However it could just be weird wording and also only be an execute. As in the videos it definitely doesn't look available till 20% or below period.

They could change the window or the entire effect before SB releases though, so just keep in mind everything is still in development.

[ShaolinMike]

Doesn't sound like an assassinate on this, just sounds like you can use it whenever and if you land a killing blow with it you get extra gauge. Might be a mistranslation, though.

Yeah I went back and re-read the tooltip. You're correct, according to what it currently says.

[MiruWest]

Yeah I went back and re-read the tooltip. You're correct, according to what it currently says.

Ageha is, indeed, a assassinate skill. If you watch Merri's video you will see that the skill does not light up to be used until the mob was at 20%.

[Tsilyi]

for opener consideration, some videos i've seen have the samurai at 15 kenki while out of combat and though perhaps some are taken as clips and the character could have been in combat before they were recorded, it would be interesting if the samurai would generate up to 15 kenki OOC natively. it would change the opener a little bit or make it easier to dump some kenki and still be sure to have enough for kaiten

[Daioh]

After reading ExShikyo's reddit post that 3 Sen Hagakure would bring more dps then using the Sen on Midare Setsugeka,I decided to see if I could figure out a potential opener.
Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...urai/?sort=new

We've yet to confirm if Hissatsu: Kaiten effects Higanbana's DoT so I will post the same open twice,one if Kaiten works with the DoT,and one if it doesn't,but the opener is almost exactly the same regardless.

The K refers to how much Kenki you've built

Update: Improved Opener found here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4173631

I̶f̶ ̶K̶a̶i̶t̶e̶n̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶H̶i̶g̶a̶n̶b̶a̶n̶a̶'̶s̶ ̶D̶o̶T̶ ̶

̶"̶M̶e̶i̶k̶y̶o̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶s̶u̶i̶"̶ ̶>̶ ̶Y̶u̶i̶k̶i̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶1̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶G̶e̶k̶k̶o̶(̶2̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶K̶a̶s̶h̶a̶(̶3̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶"̶H̶a̶g̶a̶k̶u̶r̶e̶"̶(̶9̶0̶K̶)̶

̶H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶9̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶J̶i̶n̶p̶u̶(̶1̶0̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶"̶H̶i̶s̶s̶a̶t̶s̶u̶:̶ ̶G̶u̶r̶e̶n̶"̶(̶5̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶G̶e̶k̶k̶o̶(̶6̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶"̶H̶i̶s̶s̶a̶t̶s̶u̶:̶ ̶K̶a̶i̶t̶e̶n̶"̶(̶4̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶H̶i̶g̶a̶n̶b̶a̶n̶a̶(̶4̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶

̶H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶4̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶f̶u̶(̶4̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶K̶a̶s̶h̶a̶(̶5̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶6̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶Y̶u̶i̶k̶i̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶7̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶7̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶J̶i̶n̶p̶u̶(̶8̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶G̶e̶k̶k̶o̶(̶9̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶"̶H̶i̶s̶s̶a̶t̶s̶u̶:̶ ̶K̶a̶i̶t̶e̶n̶"̶(̶7̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶S̶e̶t̶s̶u̶g̶e̶k̶k̶a̶

[Daioh]

Update: Improved Opener found here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4173631

I̶f̶ ̶K̶a̶i̶t̶e̶n̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶ ̶N̶O̶T̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶H̶i̶g̶a̶n̶b̶a̶n̶a̶'̶s̶ ̶D̶o̶T̶

̶"̶M̶e̶i̶k̶y̶o̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶s̶u̶i̶"̶ ̶>̶ ̶Y̶u̶i̶k̶i̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶1̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶G̶e̶k̶k̶o̶(̶2̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶K̶a̶s̶h̶a̶(̶3̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶"̶H̶a̶g̶a̶k̶u̶r̶e̶"̶(̶9̶0̶K̶)̶

H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶9̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶J̶i̶n̶p̶u̶(̶1̶0̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶"̶H̶i̶s̶s̶a̶t̶s̶u̶:̶ ̶G̶u̶r̶e̶n̶"̶(̶5̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶G̶e̶k̶k̶o̶(̶6̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶H̶i̶g̶a̶n̶b̶a̶n̶a̶(̶6̶0̶K̶)̶

H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶6̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶f̶u̶(̶6̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶K̶a̶s̶h̶a̶(̶7̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶8̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶Y̶u̶i̶k̶i̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶9̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶H̶a̶k̶a̶z̶e̶(̶9̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶J̶i̶n̶p̶u̶(̶1̶0̶0̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶"̶H̶i̶s̶s̶a̶t̶s̶u̶:̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶n̶t̶e̶n̶"̶(̶7̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶G̶e̶k̶k̶o̶(̶8̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶"̶H̶i̶s̶s̶a̶t̶s̶u̶:̶ ̶K̶a̶i̶t̶e̶n̶"̶(̶6̶5̶K̶)̶ ̶>̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶S̶e̶t̶s̶u̶g̶e̶k̶k̶a̶


You'll start the fight with Yuikikaze which puts the slashing debuff right away which other slashing jobs would benifit from as well. When using Gekko and Kasha be sure to hit their postionals for 10 Kenki. Once you reach Jinpu in this
opener you'll hit 100 Kenki just as you get your 15% Damage up,thanks to this all your Hissatsu will benifit from both 15% Damage up and Slashing debuff. This is also why I would use Jinpu before Shifu as Shifu only boosts your GCDs and Auto-attacks and NOT your oGCDs which are your Hissatsu skills.