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    Player
    Daioh's Avatar
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    Jan 2014
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    Gridania
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    Daioh Maou
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
    Dervy came up with a opener that capped out around 280+ pps, should cehck out the Balanced Discord and jump into the SAM discussion. Alot of openers have been debated but so far no one has beaten his and it seems like it will be the standard.
    Quote Originally Posted by MiruWest View Post
    I have searched through the discord but have been unable to find this opener,would you be able to post it for us?
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    Tsilyi's Avatar
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    Mar 2015
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Tsilyi L'sombra
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Daioh View Post
    I have searched through the discord but have been unable to find this opener,would you be able to post it for us?
    you have to go to #registration and type ~join Samurai
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  3. 06-08-2017 12:04 AM
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    Someone already posted it.

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    Keramory's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Character
    Lee Keramory
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Need a bit of help as someone going back into DPS after so long of healing...

    I'm a bit ignorant so please bare with me.

    Does it look like with the new changes... is there a reason not to fill every DPS slot with samurai over the other DPS? Is the other DPS buffs/debuff outweigh samurais DPS (because from what I understand they hit much harder)

    To further this, if it doesn't warrant everyone going sam... how many sam? Just 1?

    Please keep in mind the last time I went heavy DPS was in 1.0 when we stacked monks or black mages... and lost the elemental wheel as a result
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    MiruWest's Avatar
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    Character
    Miru West
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Keramory View Post
    Need a bit of help as someone going back into DPS after so long of healing...

    I'm a bit ignorant so please bare with me.

    Does it look like with the new changes... is there a reason not to fill every DPS slot with samurai over the other DPS? Is the other DPS buffs/debuff outweigh samurais DPS (because from what I understand they hit much harder)

    To further this, if it doesn't warrant everyone going sam... how many sam? Just 1?

    Please keep in mind the last time I went heavy DPS was in 1.0 when we stacked monks or black mages... and lost the elemental wheel as a result
    Theorycrafters are currently saying that in a straight up 1:1 comparison, SAM is indeed ahead of the other DPS. But once you factor in the raid damage given by things like Battle Lit and TA, then SAM is only ahead slightly by maybe 50 or so DPS. But this is also going off numbers from a very old build so no one will know for sure until patch day.
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    Sigmakan's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Character
    Sigmakan Kaph
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    See a lot of people doing Higan after 3rd GCD, but I think its worth waiting till after 4th or 5th. There will be more raid buffs up at that point. I plan on starting like:

    Hakaze>Jinpu>Gekko>Hakaze>Shifu>Higan>Kasha

    Edit, I keep mixing up these samurai move names.
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    Last edited by Sigmakan; 06-08-2017 at 02:34 AM.

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    ShaolinMike's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Michael Stormcloud
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    See a lot of people doing Higan after 3rd GCD, but I think its worth waiting till after 4th or 5th. There will be more raid buffs up at that point. I plan on starting like:

    Hakaze>Jinpu>Gekko>Hakaze>Shifu>Higan>Kasha

    Edit, I keep mixing up these samurai move names.
    Dervy's rotation has it coming even later than that to catch more buffs.
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    Arcana's Avatar
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    Character
    Ragnar Sigurdsson
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 66
    One question:

    1. Starry Eyes has 200 potency -> 25 kenki + waste open eyes
    2. Hissatsu Shinten has 300 potency -> 25 kenki.

    Same CD on both.

    So, should i remove from my hotbar Starry Eyes? ^^; It doesnt make any sense Starry Eyes.
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    Nyarlha's Avatar
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    Character
    Nyarlha Moonstalker
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    As stated multiple times, english tooltip is wrong. Japanese tooltip from a more recent build puts Starry Eyes at 15 kenki.
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    Arcana's Avatar
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    Character
    Ragnar Sigurdsson
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    As stated multiple times, english tooltip is wrong. Japanese tooltip from a more recent build puts Starry Eyes at 15 kenki.
    That makes more sense :P Thx
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