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    Vraelia Valkyria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    To be fair, the trait that has a chance to proc Aetherflow CD reduction addresses this somewhat. Having a flat 4th stack would probably be preferable, but at least they gave some thought to upgrading the mechanic with level.
    10% chance to proc a reduction CD of Aetherflow is not my way of thinking they are making SCH better. Or anything else. When 10% is a lower chance than even trying to proc a Freecure on WHM. Giving us more stacks, would be the best way to go about this. It is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG over due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VraeliaValkyria View Post
    10% chance to proc a reduction CD of Aetherflow is not my way of thinking they are making SCH better. Or anything else. When 10% is a lower chance than even trying to proc a Freecure on WHM. Giving us more stacks, would be the best way to go about this. It is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG over due.
    According the tooltips shown in the media release, it's actually a 20% chance to reduce the CD on Aetherflow by 10 seconds each time you use an action that consumes stacks.

    This isn't to say that it's necessarily going to be as nice as some of us would want it to be since it's still an RNG-dependent mechanic, but it has the potential to make a difference.
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    So... I don't really play scholar but I might play it more in Stormblood mainly because my disdain at scholar was fumbling with cleric stance and the fairy and what not... but... as an odd sort of idea...

    What if Selene had some sort of ability that triggered an AoE DoT sort of like Aero III (or if the scholar had a casted ability of the same nature) and as a side effect, Selene would become Eos.
    Eos would have a similar heal/regen ability that would then turn her into Selene (naturally this could be the same scholar ability with a different effect because Eos was out not Selene).
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    Was really hoping for a change to dissipation, I mean really... I've actually used this skill more as a missclick than on purpose... extremely situational... not only that but they made our fairy even more useful out in the field with the fey union thing not to mention we are getting the role skill Largesse that buffs healing so yeah. Think if anything it should be given an auto re-summon, I'm pretty sure summoners get their summons back after Bahamut so why in the world do sch still need to recast summon if an auto re-summon mechanic is possible? DX
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    Yep, 2.0 Scholar was very good.
    3.0 Scholar was slighty better (not a lot excited though : emergency tactics and Dissipation were bad designed and are not modified for 4.0...)
    4.0 Scholar is just not good enough for me to stay in the top compo (Chain Stratagem is the only spell which can decide his future...).
    But anyways, it's become less interesting to play SCH than AST which gain more cards management, earthly star to plan and a big shield which is equivalent to 3.75 embrace from fairy.
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    Lapipi Lapi
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    I main Scholar, and honestly I don't understand why they keep buffing Noct shields but do NOTHING of the sort for Adlo/Succor.

    There's already so many people who shit on Scholars for being useless, because AST can shield too and "Noct is better anyway"; And this 300% shield buff to AST definitely feeds them even more bullets to fire at us. I don't think this is what Square intended, but ultimately, it's what's gonna happen. Sure, not everyone is like that (thank god for common sense), but in my personal experience, it is very well out there.

    I have been insulted, told I am useless and uneeded; Duck, I have been told to kill myself by Noct!ASTs when I was on my SCH and requested Diurnal because shields don't stack, because "Noct shields are better so shut up".

    I play AST a lot. I love it. It's fun. But it did not need ANOTHER Noct buff. At least, not from an 3.x standpoint.

    If 4.x content will really be so healing intensive as to justify 300% potency shields, then tell me, why didn't SCH get a buff to their shields too? Why only buff AST?

    Sure we FINALLY get that MND buff (about trucking time), but aren't shields one of the main mechanics of the Scholar? Wasn't that a thing once? AST was designed to fill a nieche; Regen like a WHM when a co-SCH is there, and shields like a SCH when a co-WHM was. And it filled that role just fine.

    Now, it feels like Square is trying to make AST the main shield healers, for whatever reason.

    Or maybe they just... Forgot about SCH in that department.

    Seriously, at least give our shields the same potency as Noct shields? Give us the same kind of buff, so that, you know, we can actually stand a chance in our own main healing style?

    Or just stop giving AST buffs that it does not need.

    Stop fixing things that aren't broken.


    This is the main-issue I have; I don't know enough about the new abilities to judge them, I have to play it to actually get an opinion. As for the DPS nerf, I personally don't care about my DPS as a healer (although I do stance-dancing and DPS frequently), so I'm not paying much attention to that right now. But that's another can of worms I do not feel like opening now. Or ever.
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    They also missed a chance to have a skill increase heal crit rate, something like that would of been great for a sch, not to mention it could synergized with whm's abilties (even though those mechanics are pretty lousy) but yeah, fay union could of done something like that to its tethered person, or maybe chain stratagem if you used it on a party member instead of a mob.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Many are considering the AST/AST combo for long term balance up time and their huge shields and heals. They told us in 3.0 they never wanted this to happen... well, it's no longer 3.0 anymore so maybe they want this in 4.0?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    ... or maybe chain stratagem if you used it on a party member instead of a mob.
    I would definitely sulk a little less if Chain could be used on party members (or faerie!!). Deploying a critical Adlo is one of the most satisfying things in this game.
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    Also can we talk about why AST gets a flat 15% healing potency from being in a stance? There is never a time they are NOT in one or the other, and all their big heal potencies are the same as WHM now so not really sure why this was necessary. I liked having SS on diurnal and potency on noct.
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