Anyone else feeling a hit to SCH?

[silverlunarfox]

To be fair, they have been talking about nerfing SCH for quite some time. None of this is any surprise to me. However the super buffs to AST were quite unnecessary. As was the rework of WHM. What's the point of nerfing everything to only have one healing class constantly picked? I'm a scholar main, and while this will not stop me from maining the class, it does leave alot to be desired...I can only hope they finally realize how overbuffed AST is....but then again, with what they did with WHM....It's highly unlikely....I know...

[Eloah]

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I recall them indicating they didn't want to nerf any job, but bring the other jobs up in line with the "superior" jobs. If all 3 healers were viable as they claimed why did they remove so much from SCH and completely butcher WHM. if everything remaind mostly the same and lets say embrace was lowered, like it was anyway, that would be understandable, if shadowflare became what it is but the rest of our kit was the same, hey thats fine too. Its the combination of everything, they just "ruined" the one job they got right from the beginning. sigh, T.T

[ToasterMan]

I recall them indicating they didn't want to nerf any job, but bring the other jobs up in line with the "superior" jobs

Which is TERRIBLE idea.

Nerfing is apart of the balance process whether anyone here likes it or not.

[Its_Elodie]

I've been a SCH main since 2.0 and have raided all of coil, Gordias, Midas, and the creator as such, but I will not be raiding or going through msq as one in Stormblood. While the class isn't as bad off as WHM is, it's also losing a lot of what I've found fun in playing as one and I'm not going to main a class that I don't find fun anymore. The aoe nerfs (and the thought of broil spamming to replace the dot fillers we lost, and don't get me started on shadow flare), the fact that AST shields better than ours now and for cheaper mp cost...yeah I'm done. The new toys they are offering aren't enough for me to stay as one. I'll be an AST main come the expansion.

While I'm just offering my piece here for SE to understand why I'm doing this, the only thing they will ultimately understand is numbers, so when SCH's and WHM's are a dying breed in content like the AST's were in the early Alex days, then maybe some changes will come about for them. I'm really not digging the path they are taking for stormblood though. Jobs are losing their identities in favor of more homogenization and its killing the love people once had for the jobs they enjoy playing.

[Deviru]

... I'm not going to main a class that I don't find fun anymore. The new toys they are offering aren't enough for me to stay as one. I'll be an AST main come the expansion.

^ This.

To be honest with you, as long as SCH could keep its current playstyle, I wouldn't give a heck about whether it got a single new skill in the expansion. The current SCH is fun, giving a unique playstyle that feels fluid and smooth and engaging. There's always something you can do with your time as a SCH due to the 20% MP Aetherflow, which pretty much means you can always be DPSing, healing, or shielding. Now they want to nerf our MP gain, meaning we can't DPS as much as we used to, they're nerfing the fairy so we have less freedom to DPS as we please, our shields are inferior to the "hybrid" healer, and Chain Stratagem, while nice, is turning out to be a crit boost on party members and not a flat percent gain. Add onto that our huge MP cost, the total gutting of our AOE damage, and Shadow Flare being on CD?

Yeah, no. SCH looks no fun anymore. AST will be my go-to healer in 4.0 unless/until changes are made, I guess.

P.S. This is also why I feel awful for WHM mains. I feel like WHM is going to be less fun to play as a whole and force players into a playstyle that isn't even efficient in hopes of gaining lilies. At least, that seems to be the method of playing WHM that SE is encouraging.

[Saraphin]

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I've friends that play SCH, so i looked into the tool tips, Chain Stratagem isn't applied to the party member, but a Mob. Not much of a consolation, i suppose, but it is a small thing to note.

[AlexanderThorolund]

I've been a SCH main since 2.0 and have raided all of coil, Gordias, Midas, and the creator as such, but I will not be raiding or going through msq as one in Stormblood.

You haven't even played it yet lol.

Talk about biting off your nose to spite your face.

[Furious]

You haven't even played it yet lol.

Talk about biting off your nose to spite your face.

Some people are capable of reading information and understanding its meaning, contextualising that information and forming opinions based on the outcome.

Shocker, I know.


We haven't seen final numbers yet so for all we know scholars could be the strongest healers around but mechanically they seem worse. However, it's a giant bugbear of mine when people say "just wait till you've tried it!" It's dumb. We grow up as humans learning from past experiences and applying them to information to form expectations on future outcomes. They are sometimes wrong, but they are far more often right.

[AlexanderThorolund]

Some people are capable of reading information and understanding its meaning, contextualising that information and forming opinions based on the outcome.

Shocker, I know.


We haven't seen final numbers yet so for all we know scholars could be the strongest healers around but mechanically they seem worse. However, it's a giant bugbear of mine when people say "just wait till you've tried it!" It's dumb. We grow up as humans learning from past experiences and applying them to information to form expectations on future outcomes. They are sometimes wrong, but they are far more often right.

You're the kind of people Yoshida was talking about when he said calm down.

[szarina]

As a sch I really cannot DPS anymore due to mana issues . They need to fix sch. I leveled all 3 healers because I had a feeling they were going to nerf sch into the ground. And They Did I used to love playing my sch but no more . Since I started leveling it I will finish what I started then Put my Sch on the shelf until they are fixed.