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  1. #1
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    heynowjose's Avatar
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    Wyatt Shalott
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    Sage Lv 100

    Job Individuality

    I'm sorry to disappoint many of you, but this is not a complain thread. Sorry.

    That being said, I gotta say, the most exciting thing coming from todays media is how so many of these job updates really make a lot of the jobs feel like they play different.
    It's most noticeable with things like the healers (good or bad aside) they all really have an identity. Or with MCH and BRD they don't feel like they're doing the same thing with a reskin. Even PLD got a better defined protector feel to it. IDK I'm excited to try out a lot of the jobs I haven't touched bc it finally feels like they all have specialties and a uniqueness to each of them.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Not sure if I'm seeing the same thing you are. I used to consider AST a WHM with cards.

    Now I feel like WHM is an AST without cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Not sure if I'm seeing the same thing you are. I used to consider AST a WHM with cards.

    Now I feel like WHM is an AST without cards.
    I've mained WHM and AST and i have to disagree. As a whm the playstyle was always heal. That's it. You make sure everyone's good an try to dps.
    As an AST that was part of the job but you were focused on buffing your party. You could play it as a WHM who occasionally remembers to draw cards but a good astro is drawing cards every second they can.

    With the changes those two traits for WHM and AST are more focused and tailored. Again, pushing aside whether or not this makes the WHM useless in raids or whatever (which i think is your point, seeing as a "AST without cards" basically translates to all it does is heal), WHM is now even more focused on healing and upkeep of party. While AST is even better able to buff the party. The two play very differently when played optimally now, I imagine these new skills will make them even more different to play.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    SCH always had its own individuality, it's just now I don't have any AoE, like what the hell. Yeah I might be a broken record but, COME ON... We didn't even get a Holy or Gravity skill to replace it. Bane the way it was was perfect and fell in line nicely with the other AoE nerfs, but now, ARGH!!!!! I feel the 2 Original Healers got the shaft while AST got a great boost.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Airget Lamh
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    Botanist Lv 100
    For WHM, I think an easy buff would be adding a "Holy Bar" which does the following.

    Holy Bar increase when you cure targets, however it decreases when you use magic spells.

    With the following bar you can do the following:
    Holy gains special effect based on how high you built up the bar.

    50%=Dmg potency +50
    75%=Cast no MP and has a no resist Stun
    100%=Adds Regen to allies and a DoT to all mobs hit by it.

    By adding something simple like this, you create flexibility that WHM can play with to be more engaging. And the "Holy Bar" doesn't even need to be just for Holy, but the above would encourage focusing on healing while offering perks to DPS and utility by using their signature Magic Spell Holy.
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    Pheryx Ramal
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Ninja will feel like ninja for me and it will be glorious, especially with crit and direct hit stacking together to do some insane damage.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    For WHM, I think an easy buff would be adding a "Holy Bar" which does the following.

    Holy Bar increase when you cure targets, however it decreases when you use magic spells.

    With the following bar you can do the following:
    Holy gains special effect based on how high you built up the bar.

    50%=Dmg potency +50
    75%=Cast no MP and has a no resist Stun
    100%=Adds Regen to allies and a DoT to all mobs hit by it.

    By adding something simple like this, you create flexibility that WHM can play with to be more engaging. And the "Holy Bar" doesn't even need to be just for Holy, but the above would encourage focusing on healing while offering perks to DPS and utility by using their signature Magic Spell Holy.
    Basically this? http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Afflatus_Solace

    I do think that would be good actually. Just a few tweaks and I think it'd be a nice ability.
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    Ayer Austen
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    There is a lot of salt right now, but I agree with your sentiments OP.
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    i'm glad BRD songs are meaningful now, that's a huge improvement to the form of the job, will see about the function when people actually start playing it.
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I love Paladin even more now. I get to really keep my promise when I got married to my BF in game of 'I will be the shield that protects you from harm'.
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