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    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Unfortunately the Devs determined SMN AOE DPS needed nerfed and SCH was just the red headed stepchild that came along with it.
    And isnt it funny I'm a red headed scholar, lol?
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Menae View Post
    It isn't; somebody read a tooltip incorrectly.
    The Japanese tooltip says it's 10% now, and people who watched videos of scholars playing said the mp returned upon execution was 10% (I didn't bother watching videos to confirm that, though). A number of the English tooltips have had discrepancies like that one.
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    Last edited by Aethaeryn; 06-03-2017 at 04:20 PM.

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    Menae's Avatar
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aethaeryn View Post
    The Japanese tooltip says it's 10% now, and people who watched videos of scholars playing said the mp returned upon execution was 10% (I didn't bother watching videos to confirm that, though). A number of the English tooltips have had discrepancies like that one.
    Hope they revert that, then. SCH mana costs are pretty high, and Energy Drain competes with some other pretty strong abilities for MP recovery.
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    Aethaeryn's Avatar
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Menae View Post
    Hope they revert that, then. SCH mana costs are pretty high, and Energy Drain competes with some other pretty strong abilities for MP recovery.
    Yeah. Between that and the AOE stuff, I'm not sure if I'll switch around what healer I play when I feel like healing. Mostly the AOE damage bothers me, though. I stopped playing PLD in 3.x because of the lack of aoe damage for trash in dungeons, and now I'll feel like I'm slowing stuff down on scholar. It was nice being able to pick up slack for melee that don't aoe large trash packs. I guess I could go WHM or AST for that still.
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    Soldier_Zero's Avatar
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    Judge Magister
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    SCH have access to both Lucid Dream and Aetherflow for mp regen. Their skills in 4.0 are comparatively 5-15% more expensive than they are now.
    This will likely mean that SCH will have enough mp at all times but will budget mp. That is, SCH will decide whether or not Adloquium is worth using compared to waiting for Lustrate to come off cool-down. This is similar to WHM choosing between Cure 2 and Tetragrammaton.
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    MsTanya's Avatar
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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Soldier_Zero View Post
    SCH have access to both Lucid Dream and Aetherflow for mp regen. Their skills in 4.0 are comparatively 5-15% more expensive than they are now.
    This will likely mean that SCH will have enough mp at all times but will budget mp. That is, SCH will decide whether or not Adloquium is worth using compared to waiting for Lustrate to come off cool-down. This is similar to WHM choosing between Cure 2 and Tetragrammaton.
    Adlo: 1060-->1800 Succor: 1326-->2280 Broil/2: 530-->960
    That looks closer to double, not 5-15%.
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    Adlo: 1060-->1800 Succor: 1326-->2280 Broil/2: 530-->960
    That looks closer to double, not 5-15%.
    Did you take into account the actual MP increase you get from leveling 60-70?
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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    Did you take into account the actual MP increase you get from leveling 60-70?
    Yes that's taken into account, its the current cost of the spell versus the cost of the spell at 70. I believe we get 17k mana at 70 in i290 so that means one aetherflow wont even cover 2 broils/1adlo etc. Makes me scared if anything is actually healing intensive honestly.
    Just did some napkin math, keeping dots up fulltime for a minute and plugging away with broils on a single target will cost us 21,480 mana without a single healing spell cast during that minute since only physick is cheaper than any other spell I figured it was unnecessary to calculate healing since more often than not youre gonna toss an adlo or succor anyway. So without drains assuming we used aetherflow for healing instead, we end up at 4200 mp at the end of a single minute. Even with drains 7600 so I mean its not looking fantastic lol.
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    Last edited by MsTanya; 06-03-2017 at 05:42 PM.

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    Verrin's Avatar
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    Character
    Verrin Gunnar
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    its about +33% more mp per spell compared to equivalent spells on whm & ast
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