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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90

    What hlrs are losing in terms of dps

    these calculations will not take into account of Cleric uptime and you are lv 70 and all dots hit 100% of time and all abilities used in succession not taking in cds :

    Whm in HW:
    stone, 140 potency ( Had niche uses due to heavy debuff so its included)
    aero, 50 + (25*18s/3) = 200 potency
    aero 2, 50 +(50*12s/3) = 250 potency
    Fluid aura, 150 potency
    Holy, 200 potency then -10% for every extra enemy till theres 6+ where caps at -50%
    stone, 3, 210 potency
    assize, 300 potency
    aero 3, 50 +(40*24s/3) = 370 potency

    Whm in SB:
    aero 2, 250 potency (see above calculation)
    Holy, 200 potency same as before
    stone 4, 260 potency
    assize, 300 potency
    aero3, 370 potency (see above calculation)
    Break, 50 potency

    so for whm they lose 490 (aero + fluid aura potency + stone 1) - 100 (stone 4 potency increase + break) = 390 potency on bass skills alone.

    Sch in HW:
    Bio, 40*18s/3 = 240 potency
    Energy Drain, 150 potency
    Miasma, 20 + (35*24s/3) = 300 potency
    Bio 2, 35*30s/3 = 350 potency
    Miasma 2, 20 + (10*15s/3) = 70 potency
    Shadow flare, 25*30s/3 = 250 potency
    Broil, 170 potency
    aero, 200 potency ( see above calculation)
    blizzard 2, 50 potency ( seen arguements for blizzard 2 on sch not so for ast and whm at 60)
    ruin 2, 80 potency

    Sch in SB:
    Energy Drain, 150 potency
    Miasma, 300 potency
    Bio 2, 350 potency
    Shadow flare, 250 potency
    Broil 2, 230 potency
    ruin 2, 100 potency
    break, 50 potency

    So for sch they lose 560 (lose of Bio, Miasma2, aero and blizzard 2) - 130 (Broil 2 potency increase, break and ruin 2 potency increase) = 430 potency lost on the transition

    Ast in HW:
    Combust, 40*18s/3) = 240 potency
    Stella, 100 potency ( had heavy so had very niche uses over malefic 2 so its included)
    combust 2, 45*30s/3 = 450 potency
    Gravity, 200 potency (acts same as Holy -10% every additional enemy till at -50%)
    Malefic 2, 200 potency
    aero, 200 potency

    Ast in SB:
    combust 2, 450 potency
    Gravity, 200 potency
    steller Blast/Stellar explosion, !50/200 potency ( i'll use stellar explosion in final calculation)
    Malefic 3, 210 potency
    Lord of crowns, 300 potency (acting you drew this)
    break, 50 potency

    so for ast they lose 540 ( lose of combust, stella and aero) - 560 (stellar explosion + 10 potency malefic 3 increase and Lord of crowns, + break) = 20 potency gain

    TLDR :
    Whm loses 390 potency in skills at lv 70
    Sch loses 430 potency at lv 70
    Ast gains 20 potency at lv 70
    This is purely at their peak having every cds to waste and drawn a specific card but yea clearly shows who the favorite is and why removing all lower dots is a bad thing pls reverse this SE its pretty ridiculous you get rid of stance dancing AND neuter the dps capabilities to a point some basic hlr dps rotations are 1, 2 and 2 and 2 >_>
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    Last edited by Crushnight; 06-01-2017 at 04:42 PM.