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    kattzkitti's Avatar
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    Mako Hext
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    These changes turn BRD into a buff micro-management job. Personally despise that gameplay style, so will be swapping to MCH for any gameplay that I choose to play a ranger on... although I might just drop ranger all together if the MCH's 1-2-3 combo procs haven't been buffed from that abysmal 50% rate.
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    FaileExperiment's Avatar
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    Vash Warbreaker
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    These changes turn BRD into a buff micro-management job. Personally despise that gameplay style, so will be swapping to MCH for any gameplay that I choose to play a ranger on... although I might just drop ranger all together if the MCH's 1-2-3 combo procs haven't been buffed from that abysmal 50% rate.
    The MCH proc rate on the main combo skills will still be %50, but they will have different effects and work with new "Heat" feature. It may or may not be better, in your opinion.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    These changes turn BRD into a buff micro-management job.
    Yeah it definitely has become a buff-managing job, but after watching Mr.Hapyy's video, I am very pleased with the speed and fluidity it has now. That new job guage for it is kind of a godsend too. Will make it easier to see when the song is gonna drop.
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    Something I just thought of though, with the new songs all giving the same 2% crit buff + some kind of additional effect depending on which song is played, what will happen if their is 2 BRD's in a party? Will the crit buff's stack (ie 2 songs = 4% crit bonus, etc) or will it only apply the two different additional effects.

    Either way, seeing the new Bard, is making me not wanna bother with the BRD I have now haha. >.>; c'mon 2 weeks!
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-01-2017 at 08:10 AM.

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    Jetstream_Fox's Avatar
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Seraph
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    Archer Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    These changes turn BRD into a buff micro-management job. Personally despise that gameplay style, so will be swapping to MCH for any gameplay that I choose to play a ranger on... although I might just drop ranger all together if the MCH's 1-2-3 combo procs haven't been buffed from that abysmal 50% rate.
    Bard was always a buff class though, these changes go back to roots of 2.0 and expand on the current songs. Though we don't get a regen song like the 2.0 Bard mentor, we are getting what many people thought we should have gotten in 3.0 in faster cooldowns, damage reduction on mobs, and damage received.
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I am in love. THANK YOU SE!!!!!

    _______________________________________↓ ↓ ↓ Just a small taste↓ ↓ ↓________________

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    Go watch the videos!
    MTQcaptures' Bard 4.0 Actions and changes
    Mr. Happy Bard Overview
    or can read about BRD/MCH changes here also.
    https://gamerescape.com/2017/05/30/f...is-ranged-dps/
    this looks sketchy. the additional effect at the top is the same for all 3 songs. and none of them have a thing to do with MP or TP.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    this looks sketchy. the additional effect at the top is the same for all 3 songs. and none of them have a thing to do with MP or TP.
    The MP/TP regeneration songs became role abilities for ranged DPS jobs that are now called Tactician and Refresh respectively. So they still exist, but bard has changed dramatically once again so the changed songs all do the same thing (2%crit buff now) but each has a different additional effect. I highly recommend watching the Mr. Happy video to get a better idea of how these songs work and why they were changed..
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-01-2017 at 09:44 AM.

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    Az Zurrei
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    this looks sketchy. the additional effect at the top is the same for all 3 songs. and none of them have a thing to do with MP or TP.
    it is supposed to be like that...having one of these songs up at all times give 2% crit buff to party - you can maintain 100% uptime of that buff.
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    it is supposed to be like that...having one of these songs up at all times give 2% crit buff to party - you can maintain 100% uptime of that buff.
    Well, I'll believe it when they release it, I guess. Because I see nothing to indicate why the Mage spell is a mage spell.
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    Well, I'll believe it when they release it, I guess. Because I see nothing to indicate why the Mage spell is a mage spell.
    I feel like some people cant see the forest through the trees right now and are blinded to everything else purely because SE chose to keep the name 'Mage's Ballad'. . .

    For this reason Ive created a second thread in the DPS roles section of the forum so that hopefully SE will see it and take into consideration changing the name of Mage's ballad to avoid confusion in the future. Please feel free to post your feedback regarding the naming there.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-01-2017 at 10:06 AM.

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    O-o O-o
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    Brynhildr
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    Marauder Lv 1
    Are any other bards concerned we no longer buff damage directly, rather only provide a 2% crit increase, while mch still remains capable of directly buffing magic/physical damage?

    Also does our 15% HP increase also heal that amount? 0.o
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