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  1. #21
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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    Nerf to Foes is kinda sad.
    Considering the cool stuff the casters got to raise their DPS, I dont feel all that sad in losing it. (Not that I was ever happy with it to begin with, it really didnt affect me, just the magic casters)
    This is way more useful for the party overall. Especially for bigger pulls with lots of monsters.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-01-2017 at 06:47 AM.

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    Syvic Zivota
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    Unless I'm reading wrong then Army should always be up? It sounds like that's the most beneficial song, if I'm understanding correctly it would be a 16% buff once it is stacked the 4 times? Unless River of Blood is no longer a trait, Mages only seems good for Bloodletter and Rain of Death? No idea what Pitch Perfect is, so Wanderers right now is in the dark. And is repertoire only for BRD and not party DPS, Army seems to be the skill to use. Or am I seeing it wrong?
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Unless I'm reading wrong then Army should always be up?
    Each Song is on a 30s timer, with an 80s CD. So the idea is to be constantly switching between them. One song runs out, start singing another. It runs out, sing the next. By the time it's done you can sing the first again.

    Pitch Perfect meanwhile, if I'm understanding the write-up on Gamerescape right, is built up in stacks to a max 3, then spent to use a new OGCD attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Unless I'm reading wrong then Army should always be up? It sounds like that's the most beneficial song, if I'm understanding correctly it would be a 16% buff once it is stacked the 4 times? Unless River of Blood is no longer a trait, Mages only seems good for Bloodletter and Rain of Death? No idea what Pitch Perfect is, so Wanderers right now is in the dark. And is repertoire only for BRD and not party DPS, Army seems to be the skill to use. Or am I seeing it wrong?
    30 second duration 80 second recast time -- you have to rotate through all of the songs and you can't just focus on playing one all the time.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Unless I'm reading wrong then Army should always be up? It sounds like that's the most beneficial song, if I'm understanding correctly it would be a 16% buff once it is stacked the 4 times? Unless River of Blood is no longer a trait, Mages only seems good for Bloodletter and Rain of Death? No idea what Pitch Perfect is, so Wanderers right now is in the dark. And is repertoire only for BRD and not party DPS, Army seems to be the skill to use. Or am I seeing it wrong?
    Nah, we'll rotate through songs now. They are instant casts and last a set period of time. With the exception of Foe's Requiem (which I noticed chews through MP like the THM guild brothers chew through ethers).
    Mr. Happy's video also clears up a good amount of confusion, so Ive added it in my OP.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-01-2017 at 07:37 AM.

  6. #26
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Thanks for the clear up, it seems like we will have to find out which song should go first and go from there. I'm a little curious as to what happened with River of Blood though, is it reworked or gone?
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    Ein Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Thanks for the clear up, it seems like we will have to find out which song should go first and go from there. I'm a little curious as to what happened with River of Blood though, is it reworked or gone?
    It's built into the songs as the additional effect. It just does something different depending on the song.

    Mage's Ballad is the original River of Blood. The other two have something different.

    I'm guessing it functions with Windbite and Venomous Bite before you get the upgraded versions. The screenshots are at lvl70. (Windbite and Venomous bite are replaced later on with Stormbite and Caustic Bite).
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    Last edited by Vaer; 06-01-2017 at 07:51 AM.

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    These changes turn BRD into a buff micro-management job. Personally despise that gameplay style, so will be swapping to MCH for any gameplay that I choose to play a ranger on... although I might just drop ranger all together if the MCH's 1-2-3 combo procs haven't been buffed from that abysmal 50% rate.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    These changes turn BRD into a buff micro-management job.
    Yeah it definitely has become a buff-managing job, but after watching Mr.Hapyy's video, I am very pleased with the speed and fluidity it has now. That new job guage for it is kind of a godsend too. Will make it easier to see when the song is gonna drop.
    _____________________________

    Something I just thought of though, with the new songs all giving the same 2% crit buff + some kind of additional effect depending on which song is played, what will happen if their is 2 BRD's in a party? Will the crit buff's stack (ie 2 songs = 4% crit bonus, etc) or will it only apply the two different additional effects.

    Either way, seeing the new Bard, is making me not wanna bother with the BRD I have now haha. >.>; c'mon 2 weeks!
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    Last edited by Vespar; 06-01-2017 at 08:10 AM.

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    Fynlar Eira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Because we also get this:

    So Troubadour will essentially let us buff the song currently in effect.

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    Dont forget Battle Voice.

    It may not be Crit hit.. but Direct Hit is kinda similar if I recall what Yoshi-P said about it in live letter.
    Mage's Ballad: Increases maximum *HP* by 15%

    You only just compounded the WTF factor. Again, why not just change Cure into a DoT at this point while leaving the name the same?
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