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    So I decided to take another look at some of the changes after the initial wave of disappointment wore off.

    Fester: 200 potency max. WHAT. IS. THE. POINT. Painflare is 200 potency and it doesn't require dots to be applied. Even energy drain is 150 potency and at least will refund some MP. This is comical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nerisu View Post
    And now we know how BLMs and WHMs felt when their Flare and Holy got nerfed.
    Now that the pendulum has once again swung in their favor, where is Summoner's single target to make up for the loss?
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    Yeah, but looking "neat" won't get us through that hard instance... For that you need a viable character... and unless there's something hidden that we don't know about...

    The FFXIV SMN will become the old FFXI SMN... ie... looks cool while getting its ass kicked.

    And I doubt anyone but the most superficial people will play the job at that point... and then only until their friends say... "psst... look dude we like you, but..... if you want to come along, you know.... play something else, because you really just can't pull your weight as a SMN".

    And that will end that real quick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Len View Post
    So I decided to take another look at some of the changes after the initial wave of disappointment wore off.

    Fester: 200 potency max. WHAT. IS. THE. POINT. Painflare is 200 potency and it doesn't require dots to be applied. Even energy drain is 150 potency and at least will refund some MP. This is comical.

    Now that the pendulum has once again swung in their favor, where is Summoner's single target to make up for the loss?
    I agree, it seems totally willy nilly, and completely without thought.

    I am glad Painflare did not get nerfed too, so there is that... but its one of the few things that didn't.

    But yeah you may as well remove the pre-reqs for the DoTs at this point for Fester if its only 200 potency...

    If what that description ACTUALLY meant to say was 200 each for 400, then its a different story... but the way it reads... well... its 200 potency.

    Yeah it doesn't make any sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    But yeah you may as well remove the pre-reqs for the DoTs at this point for Fester if its only 200 potency...

    If what that description ACTUALLY meant to say was 200 each for 400, then its a different story... but the way it reads... well... its 200 potency.

    Yeah it doesn't make any sense.
    Assuming fester is 200 potency it's possible we could be encouraged to use ruin III more. Energy drain gives us mp which could fuel more ruin III while fishing for ruin IV procs. Granted that sounds boring as all hell. It is starting to sound like all smn does all day is spam ruin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    The FFXIV SMN will become the old FFXI SMN... ie... looks cool while getting its ass kicked.
    At least in FFXI you could make yourself useful as a healer and buffer, we can't even do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Len View Post
    So I decided to take another look at some of the changes after the initial wave of disappointment wore off.

    Fester: 200 potency max. WHAT. IS. THE. POINT. Painflare is 200 potency and it doesn't require dots to be applied. Even energy drain is 150 potency and at least will refund some MP. This is comical.



    Now that the pendulum has once again swung in their favor, where is Summoner's single target to make up for the loss?
    well, we got ...um...ruin 4 which is same potency with ruin 3 now and only 15% to proc, also a side note that they nerf ruin 3 now /s
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