RDM and SAM skillsets revealed!

[Leonus]

Everyone is always talking about raid utility.

The raid utility thing is overstated, but all Sam has to do is pick the utility related shared role actions. It almost has no real need to pick damage ones.

I am thankful that the lack of raid utility will scare people off the job, hopefully will be less same running around. Sam will be the non of melee and monk is looking to be the man of melee.

[Elkanah]

Overall not bad but I'm rather disappointed there isn't Phalanx/Blink, let alone some kind of En-Weapon spell. Still, not like we won't possible see those in future expansions I suppose, but a Phalanx/Blink seems like an integral part of the leveling tool kit.

YES! I was just thinking the same thing for RDM! RDM has always been known to have a sort of stoneskin replacement or buff to give to self or members, as well as en-spells to deal extra damage on top of the damage they do. But then, you'd see more elemental based weapons, which we really dont have in this game like XI did back in the day. So I'm curious as to why it wasn't added for the game on en spells.

[Maero]

Maybe i read it wrong but Red Mage based on damage of the skills will even out dps SAM?

[Shiro--Tsubasa]

YES! I was just thinking the same thing for RDM! RDM has always been known to have a sort of stoneskin replacement or buff to give to self or members, as well as en-spells to deal extra damage on top of the damage they do. But then, you'd see more elemental based weapons, which we really dont have in this game like XI did back in the day. So I'm curious as to why it wasn't added for the game on en spells.

Don't they have en-type skills? Their melee attacks become enhanced for more damage when you meet the requirements on your balance gauge.

[Vexander]

Don't they have en-type skills? Their melee attacks become enhanced for more damage when you meet the requirements on your balance gauge.

That's not really how the En-Weapon spells worked in previous games. I think those just added elemental damage to your auto-attacks. As for FFXIV, I would've been up for an En-Astral/En-Umbral setup where they increase the damage of certain skills and the rate of acquired mana (En-Astral giving, say, +5% Damage to Valaero and Valstone and Valholy, and doubling the white mana they give or something). Or different mechanics. En-Astral boosting damage, En-Umbral giving spells a DoT/Debuff element at the cost of a bit of damage, etc...

[silentwindfr]

Maybe i read it wrong but Red Mage based on damage of the skills will even out dps SAM?

not really, red mage have almost no ogcd skill, when samurai have a lot... actually i have seen a few combo that are insane in terms of damage output

[HaelseMikiro]

What SAM can do with an 1800 potency weapon skill at i290

[whiteblade89]

Our damage IS our raid utility 0.o

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Raid utility? You mean cross role skills? Sure, we got them. We also got da deeps you wish you had. :3

[Maero]

not really, red mage have almost no ogcd skill, when samurai have a lot... actually i have seen a few combo that are insane in terms of damage output

Gotcha,
I was mainly looking at potency of each attacks, spells skills, etc..
SAM seemed rather low, but a friend of mine said damage wise it will out damage Monk? Dunno