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  1. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    For me, that is unacceptable. I can see no rational reason for this. It is yet another in a long list of bad design decisions without any explanation.
    You do realize that even if you do not see a reason for it, there might very well be, (and most likely there actually is) a solid motivation for his decision, at the very least from his perspective? You're behaving like those children that just will not bother to try to fathom their parents decisions without first yelling back at them, daring to think they instantly know better and see all the angles.

    In their case, which is not yours, we call it immaturity. But it has another name in the realm of adults.

    There are some people that will never understand that because they own a body, it doesn't obligatorily follow that they know how it works; or that doing well at fantasy football really doesn't warrant them a career as football coaches. Playing MMOs, even tons of them, doesn't automatically make you a game developer.

    Perhaps we should constantly remind ourselves of all this, and at every post, try to speak from a player's perspective. Let's try to yield only our experience and opinions which are those of gamers, not designers, or logistics coordinators, or producers, or directors. However, I think there will always be those that will hector the developers about how stupid their every decision is, without noticing for a second that the real stupidity lies elsewhere.

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  2. #332
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    I still move to try to cancel my spell ( Damn you XI habits! ) and find this to be a good idea, now if only we had a toggle option so everyone can stay happy.
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    Last edited by Rexes; 12-14-2011 at 06:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutelor View Post
    Playing MMOs, even tons of them, doesn't automatically make you a game developer.
    It may not make him a game developer, but it does make him a game consumer. You don't have to be a musician to know what you like in music.
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    It may not make him a game developer, but it does make him a game consumer. You don't have to be a musician to know what you like in music.
    And funny enough, knowing what you like in music allows you to choose which music you purchase NOT in how the music was created or what direction the creators of the music will take in their developmental process of their next work of art.

    Quite simply; you don't buy music you don't like.
    More to the point: You don't purchase a game you don't enjoy or think is flawed.

    In either case: The consumer has no say in what is best for a musician or a game developer and the process in which they arrive at their final products.

    People tend to think that just because there is an official forum for FFXIV it means they can say whatever they want, no matter how abusive it is to other members of the community and developers. Giving feedback is one thing, and it is what the forums are here for, but in the end the developers have the creative rights to this MMO, not us... Which usually ends up in situations where certain members of this community forget who they are and think they can say just about anything they want to just to try and prove that their idea/way of thinking is the best and only way to think. They usually arrive at irrational notions such as the developers being ill equipped to create a game people will enjoy, or that other community members are inept because they don't share the same sentiment....It's silly really.
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    Last edited by SirOleas; 12-14-2011 at 08:44 PM.

  5. #335
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirOleas View Post
    And funny enough, knowing what you like in music allows you to choose which music you purchase NOT in how the music was created or what direction the creators of the music will take in their developmental process of their next work of art.

    Quite simply; you don't buy music you don't like.
    More to the point: You don't purchase a game you don't enjoy or think is flawed.

    In either case: The consumer has no say in what is best for a musician or a game developer and the process in which they arrive at their final products.

    People tend to think that just because there is an official forum for FFXIV it means they can say whatever they want, no matter how abusive it is to other members of the community and developers. Giving feedback is one thing, and it is what the forums are here for, but in the end the developers have the creative rights to this creation, not us... Which usually ends up in situations where certain members of this community forget who they are and think they can say just about anything they want to just to try and prove that their idea/way of thinking is the best and only way to think. They usually arrive at irrational notions such as the developers being ill equipped to create a game people will enjoy, or that other community members are inept because they don't share the same sentiment....It's silly really.
    ^ So much truth in this post I can't believe I am on the FFXIV forums.
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  6. #336
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    To be more on topic though(Copy/Pasted from my post on Eorzeapedia):
    Movement canceling spell casting is an old concept and is widely accepted as a standard for many MMO/RPGs; However; in a more action oriented environment such as XIV where movement is key (would be more important if lag was not an issue.) I feel that being able to move while casting would play into the style better than stationary casting. XI got away with stationary casting because the battle system was not nearly as action oriented. There really was no constant movement other than the fights that required kiting, and even then for the most part Mages could stand in the middle of the kiting area and reach their target just fine. XIV's Ifrit battle is a shining example of why stationary casting (and animation lock) are counter intuitive of the battle system and style of play they are trying to create.
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    I support putting anything that belongs in 2.0 early, it helps us get used to the game quicker
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    im really wondering if this could possibly speed up the nuking process.

    obviously it could possibly mean that your next spell is fired off immediately without a charge time if you move as a few have stated.
    however, if this is true then id imagine you'd have to have a certain amount already charged from your previous spell in order for your next spell to fire off immediately. this information would probably be saved in some sort of que system or something server side.
    if this is the case, then im all for it.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Howdy!

    Some of you may be thinking, who is this guy? Sorry for my lack of appearance on the FFXIV forums

    Just wanted to clarify something that Yoshi-P mentioned, which was incorrectly translated. I have already corrected the original post, but wanted to re-post it here for you all to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    With the current server state, we noticed a lag when we cast spells. Are you sure there won’t be a bigger lag than 0.3 seconds when cancelling a spell via movement?
    We are currently performing tests by changing the process from a script to hard-coding. Please note that if we are unable to achieve the results that we want, we will not implement the feature forcefully.
    Apologies for the mix up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Howdy!

    Some of you may be thinking, who is this guy? Sorry for my lack of appearance on the FFXIV forums

    Just wanted to clarify something that Yoshi-P mentioned, which was incorrectly translated. I have already corrected the original post, but wanted to re-post it here for you all to see.



    Apologies for the mix up!
    Your not Bay or Ruk, I want my updates from them!

    (j/k! )
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