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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    With Ifrit you rarely have to move and cast as it is, sure its a nice feature to have for say healing while running back from an eruption but really I haven't found that I needed it to win, I could easily wait tell I'm in place to heal or wait for the cast to finish before getting back in place. In fact moving to cancel I think will make the fight much easier so long as there is no delay like there is when currently trying to cancel a spell probably 99% of the time I get caught in an eruption is because of having to heal and an eruption poping (and yes I know when and when not to heal but sometimes you just have to).
    This guy gets it! +1

    (kindof not related but applicable)
    From a tank perspective, I need to be aware of my healer's situation... so I see an eruption under my healers feet, I pop my "ocrap" rotation and self heal my way through it. That's right, it makes the tank's job harder, but I'm up for a challenge.
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    Sure grinding raptors it is easy to have 8 people stand where they should be but its just grinding raptors and you don't usually have to do anything exciting or pay attention after you get in the groove. But for more exciting stuff it shouldn't always that way.

    See, I want more dynamic fights where standing completely still 100% of the time isn't an option.

    But mostly I hate it when on a persons screen they are standing dead still but the server doesn't know it yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta_Sumasu View Post
    Sure grinding raptors it is easy to have 8 people stand where they should be but its just grinding raptors and you don't usually have to do anything exciting or pay attention after you get in the groove. But for more exciting stuff it shouldn't always that way.

    See, I want more dynamic fights where standing completely still 100% of the time isn't an option.

    But mostly I hate it when on a persons screen they are standing dead still but the server doesn't know it yet...
    Trust me, I do too. Ifrit is one of those cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Trust me, I do too. Ifrit is one of those cases.
    How can you say this when you are stalwart defending static casting?

    Also, the immersion reasoning is a load of bull. (Not directed to you DeadRiser.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtEmisPalmecia View Post
    How can you say this when you are stalwart defending static casting?

    Also, the immersion reasoning is a load of bull. (Not directed to you DeadRiser.)
    You gotta be kidding me. I like movement, but I don't think casting while moving should happen. Movement doesn't always mean you are doing something with magic DUH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You gotta be kidding me. I like movement, but I don't think casting while moving should happen. Movement doesn't always mean you are doing something with magic DUH.
    So, since you're a mage, you like... not doing your job? o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You gotta be kidding me. I like movement, but I don't think casting while moving should happen. Movement doesn't always mean you are doing something with magic DUH.
    No, I am not.

    If you want dynamic combat, you should be able to move and cast at the same time. Having to stop, cast, hold spot until spell has been cast is not dynamic, nor produces dynamic content. It produces non-dynamic content in which the AI run through cycles that promotes non-dynamic game play, which unfortunately, the ability to run and cast is being sacrifice for the sake of PVP "balance" ultimately. Seriously, if I'm not being pushed to cure\nuke while running out of random 'eruptions' in future fights, while taking into consideration of the distance between my target, I would not consider the content as dynamic as it could of been.

    This forum will only get worse with class/job balancing topics once PVP is implemented. Why? One reason is that there will be that few 'x class/job' that will post to high heavens, constantly creating new topics, just to be heard, because they cannot beat 'x class/job,' and multiple other classes will have to suffer each update with job/class change adjustment in both PVE and PVP environment while SE tries to cater to both crowds.
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    Remove the cast time (which seems to double sometimes with lag) and I can go with not being able to cast on the run.
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    You should read the article. It would be horrible cheap for PvP and stuff. I like that they will be implementing this. I play games to have fun and challenge myself. The easier things are, the quicker I become bored. By the way, I loved Dark Souls =).
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    Doesn't change the fact that mage is useless in PvP. Low armor, low health, has to stand still during combat, what's the point? Oh yeah! I can cast instant cast spells while running!!!!! All two of them... and three if burst counts.... but I have a feeling since thundara does really low damage without combo, so will burst.
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    Prolly live in their mommy's basement playing the game 23/7.

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